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For the vast majority of modern clothes in modern washing machines, this is not necessary. Our detergents are a lot better and our dyes stick on way more.
That's like, a minute or two.
If you don't use the technology then it doesn't save you time.
Literally again, another few minutes (honestly probably more like a single minute if not less but let's count going to the laundry room and back)
Again, another few minutes.
It went from a day of exhaustive and attentive work to barely anything.
Unless you have a massive family, you aren't doing laundry everyday. Five shirts, five pants, five underwear would not fill up my washing machine. What a waste. Put them in the laundry hamper and do it in batches like everyone else. We get 3 days worth I would say but obviously depends on the circumstances.
And if you choose to change bedsheets every day then you're overdoing it. That's just OCD.
Completely unnecessary unless you're tracking in mud.
Yeah this suggests you do have some sort of OCD issue going on then with it. It is not ordinary to change bed sheets and vacuum daily.
I know several women who do vacuum daily. I know several who change bed sheets weekly. As convenience improves, standards go up. Now that it's easy to do laundry, you should do laundry. Playing on fears of infection and social fears of being perceived as dirty or careless was a huge range of advertisements aimed at housewives from the 50s onward.
Today we don't give a damn if a shirt is ironed or not, but it was used as a tool of judgement - are you letting your husband and kids go out in clothes that are not sparkling white? Are you a proper wife and mother? Creating perceived needs and playing on them is what advertising is all about.
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