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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026

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So in other words, there is no evidence.

Which is much less own then you think it is, given that there is zero public access to anything that could be evidence, and no reason to assume the site is acting in good faith.

"Khelif has XY chromosomes" != "Imane Khelif is a man."

Yes, it does.

and it's not just hardcore lefties who believe that but also again Algeria a Muslim conservative nation that had Khelif participate in women's sports.

You are again trying to use your vague impressions of a country you know nothing about to wave away the results of a chromosome test. This means nothing you say about evidence existing or not existing can be taken seriously.

You know you can just literally Google how the Algerian government treats and views LGBT people right?

Who said anything about Khelif being LGBT?

Well yes, conspiracists are typically stupid.

Remember, this entire conversation is about a 2019 change to push poll casual viewers being alleged as an intentional manipulation to cover for The Odyssey failing. Five years before it was even in production!

Oh dear. If you're going to call people stupid, you probably should make sure you're not going to misrepresent their argument to such a drastic extent. Studios have an incentive to manipulate the coverage of shitty movies in general. The Odyssey might happen to be an escalation point in the measures they take, but otherwise it's just a specific instance of what they do in general.

Which is much less own then you think it is, given that there is zero public access to anything that could be evidence, and no reason to assume the site is acting in good faith.

Then that can be said instead of making unproven allegations. They can say "I assume X".

You are again trying to use your vague impressions of a country you know nothing about to wave away the results of a chromosome test. This means nothing you say about evidence existing or not existing can be taken seriously.

We know the Algerian government viewed her as a woman, because despite being intersex they had her competing in women's sports.

Oh dear. If you're going to call people stupid, you probably should make sure you're not going to misrepresent their argument to such a drastic extent. Studios have an incentive to manipulate the coverage of shitty movies in general. The Odyssey might happen to be an escalation point in the measures they take, but otherwise it's just a specific instance of what they do in general.

Shifting from bailey to motte here. The allegation isn't "they could have incentive to manipulate the coverage" but specifically that the 2019 change by Rotten Tomatoes is active manipulation to hide how unpopular The Oddysey "truly" is.

The issue is that this actual allegation is objectively stupid, and that's why you have to retreat back. It's a motivated claim looking for evidence and couldn't find any, so it was decided that an old change to poll casual viewers (and fix feedback selection bias) would be retrofitted as proof.

Then that can be said instead of making unproven allegations.

I think it's fine to make allegations, as long as it's clear that they are allegations, and you're not misleading people by implying you have hard evidence.

We know the Algerian government viewed her as a woman, because despite being intersex they had her competing in women's sports.

Which says precisely nothing about whether or not Khelif is, in fact, a man or a woman, particularly in the presence of a Y chromosome and testicles.

Shifting from bailey to motte here. The allegation isn't "they could have incentive to manipulate the coverage" but specifically that the 2019 change by Rotten Tomatoes is active manipulation to hide how unpopular The Oddysey "truly" is.

The issue is that this actual allegation is objectively stupid,

No, you're just misrepresenting the original argument. Unless I got lost in the conversation, I didn't see anyone say this was made for the Odyssey specifically. The claim is it was made for shitty movies in general, and The Odyssey is a specific instance to which the claim applies.