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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 27, 2023

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Could it not simply be that these mens moral characters are fine, but they simply lack the resources and experience many women desire?

Well, dating dynamics still don't favour Chinese and Korean men in the west despite pulling a hefty paycheck. Many are virgins even in their 30s. Ditto with Indian men, but arranged marriages and the low desirability of their own women ensure (heh) the problem fixes itself after a point. Feminists are very bent on subverting "unrealistic standards of female beauty" in the media, yet are perfectly fine with unrealistic standards for men, part of the intention is to artificially lift their status in the sexual market. I suppose that somewhat explains why South Asian and Black women in the west tend to be the most woke. They're both minorities in a largely white culture, but they have no equivalents to the yellow fever.

They're both minorities in a largely white culture, but they have no equivalents to the yellow fever.

There's one for Black women (I am much less familiar with American desi culture), but it's mismatched with internal American Black culture dynamics. Being of "yellowbone" or "redbone" complexion is a high-status marker in ADoS culture, but White men who are attracted to Black women report higher preference for darker skin. Dating a pureblood Yoruba or Dinka immigrant would be their first choice.

I wonder if women born in such marriages are just as bitter as hapa men about their White fathers' fetish ruining their dating prospects.

Interestingly, the one hapa guy had issues because his Asian mom would not let him bring girls around for fear that they'd steal her white husband.

The fetish is not always on the side you expect.

I wonder if women born in such marriages are just as bitter as hapa men about their White fathers' fetish ruining their dating prospects.

Human variance is wide, I'm sure there are those to whom this is an actual fetish, but pathologing normal partner preferences always struck me as discourse poison.

I wonder if women born in such marriages are just as bitter as hapa men about their White fathers' fetish ruining their dating prospects.

Are you sure this isn't mostly an observed phenomenon from evaporative cooling on forums leaving the most extreme examples? In real life, the half-Asian guys I know do just fine with women. I suppose if they did have antipathy towards their white fathers they wouldn't tell me, but it doesn't seem like something that's obviously true. The whole thing seems like a coping mechanism for romantically failed men to blame something other than their own personalities.

In real life, the half-Asian guys I know do just fine with women. I suppose if they did have antipathy towards their white fathers they wouldn't tell me, but it doesn't seem like something that's obviously true.

I don't have any hard data to go on here, but I wouldn't be surprised if the ones with antipathy disproportionately grew up with a single mother -- I can absolutely see how a mixed-race child with trouble fitting into the side of the only family available to them could blame their absent father, especially if there's an easily seen "my mother was just a fetish for him" or something like that.

but White men who are attracted to Black women report higher preference for darker skin. Dating a pureblood Yoruba or Dinka immigrant would be their first choice.

Yes, maybe for fetishists or people who are really fixed in their preferences that they search out black women (even then I'm doubtful, I suspect that their definition of "darker" is different -lighter- from mine).

It's still possible that the median white man would prefer a woman whose blackness is less...obvious or she even passes for white.

as bitter as hapa men about their White fathers' fetish ruining their dating prospects.

Really? In my experience mixed white/east asian people, both men and women, skew uncommonly pretty.

Unless you mean, like, half polynesian/half white people?

skew uncommonly pretty.

There is something of a stereotype among incel types, in which the male product of a white father and an Asian mother blames his make-up on his lack of height and more masculine features. Essentially, it's sour grapes in which these guys fantasize about an alternate mother that might reroll their build as "tall and masculine" instead of "pretty and good at math".

Mixed White/Asian incels that look Asian complain that Asian girls prefer White and White-passing men to them.

I suppose that somewhat explains why South Asian and Black women in the west tend to be the most woke. They're both minorities in a largely white culture,

Is that true, though? I would expect that most black and south-asian women to be living in areas where white people are at best a plurality; I would expect the young dating cohorts to be living in places with demographics like Oakland's.

What's the source for the second chart?

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