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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 14, 2026

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If you looked at the source at all, you would see that the majority were slaughtered by the opponent of the Americans. You may argue that the conflict would not have happened without US intervention, but it was still the opponents who blew up those people.

And anyways I clicked through the source to look at some actual cases, I randomly clicked on Eighteen gay men and boys killed in Baghdad. I'm just gonna make a huuuge leap and guess that the Americans didn't have much to do with this.

Only the US has agency; there is no novus actus interveniens from any other actor downstream of US action (or sometimes, inaction) so the US is responsible for all deaths attributable to its action or inaction, even indirectly.

If you looked at the source at all, you would see that the majority were slaughtered by the opponent of the Americans

Where does it say that?

If you go through the sources for example the Iraq War which has documented deaths between 187,499 – 211,046 and filter for deaths caused by only "US-led coalition, no Iraqi state forces" that number is 17,076. For comparison, ISIS is directly responsible for 26,751 civilian deaths.

So Phailyoor is likely correct. He also linked the same source I found by looking at the source of the number on Wikipedia article you linked.

There's literally a link you can click in the post, yet you continue mindlessly claiming that 100% of all civilian deaths in the conflict were caused by bloodthirsty Americans murdering them in cold blood.

Your source said 18 gay men dead vs 400,000 civilians.

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