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So you think horny men deserve arbitrary violence from random people who wear cheap tin badges? Do you think the human race must be non horny? Why?
The ability to control your impulses is a crucial element of participating in society. If the desire and prospect of getting laid causes you to throw out discernment or consideration for other human beings, you are one of the people who make the police necessary.
I think it would be a better world if we had fewer people who thought that being horny was some kind of excuse.
So should failing the Marshmallow Test be illegal then?
Afaik no harm came to the woman. From the evidence presented in the thread, she enjoyed the encounter and was there voluntarily. Real rape really sucks & should be illegal but a lot of these «rape» cases lately (as in since gamergate at least) have less negative qualia in them than a bad day at school. Them being illegal implies that bad days at school need to be illegal as well (handcuffs out for asshole teachers, bullies?) as many other things we take for granted as a part of «being in society » like having a shitty boss or your spouse cheating on you or being dumped or rejected.
I feel like you know this is a bad comparison.
If you wanted a marshmallow so badly that you ripped out of someone else's hand, that already is illegal. It's unlikely to be prosecuted, both because few people would bother reporting it and the matter is probably too trivial for any prosecutor to take up the case, but in most states it could absolutely win you a trip to the big house.
I don't think that's true. I think what's actually going on here is that there's a significant body of sexually predatory men who don't care about women, don't believe that sexual violence is actually harmful, and who don't like the fact that shifting norms means their already-dodgy behavior has been clarified as predatory. They'll cling to the most marginal accusations as if we're about to outlaw sex, but the reality even after decades of effort, effectually prosecuting sex crimes is pretty hard.
Not me.
I don't believe most of what is prosecuted, at least in the news media, is sexual violence. Since it's not violence, it's not harmful.
I think it's homophobic to call this behavior dodgy. So what, they had voluntary sex with their bros and a girl? Why is that bad, are you against bisexual/gay men?
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Not the human race. Just the male subset. Women are allowed to be as horny as they want. Men must not act like women...
No, I think if a woman showed up and did the same thing, they should go prison all the same. It is deeply unfortunate that sexually predatory behavior from women is treated even more lightly than the same behavior from men. It is just less common.
Yes, the male version of sexually predatory behavior is not treated as seriously when women do it.
The entire problem here is that you have no concept for the similarly-exploitative female behavior; given men and women are morally equal, we should expect this to be 50/50, so where's all the crime from women we're ignoring, and what does it look like?
(The answer to that question has a lot to do with "intentionally suppressing men from trying in the first place", of course; were the world fair then every single progressive teacher would be in jail for sexual interference, but we prefer feminism instead because it's easy.)
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Why don't we just arrest people who act like voluntary sex is actually bad? Aren't horny people far more victimized by such people? Like after centuries of state backed terror?
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I agree with your point, but technically culling horny men will reduce the mean horniness in the population which will reduce the horniness of women and men at the same time. I'm pointing this out explicitly because I'm getting at how arresting men for small sexual torts is nothing other than a barbaric dysgenics project. The whole point is spitefully interfering with these young men's reproduction and if you use POSIWID you get that the point must be to reshape the human race to be less horny. Because they are being targeted merely for being horny.
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