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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 13, 2023

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Continuing my theme in the previous comment of springboarding off the QC thread for discussion topics...

War of the sexes, but specifically regarding long term relationships and marriage.

What, in your opinion, should/does a desirable male partner bring to the table? What should/does a desirable female partner bring to the table?

The goal here is not specifically symmetry, if the desirableness is asymmetrical. For example, if you think a woman should desire a man with a stable job, but a man would be neutral or negative towards a woman with a stable job, then there's no need to include that on both lists.

To make the discussion more specific, less hypothetical: excluding amorphous concepts of "chemistry", what is the concrete package of measurable traits the opposite sex needs to offer for you to want to commit to a relationship with them? What is the package you are offering them in exchange? Do you feel this is a "good deal"?

(I'll answer for myself in a reply rather than answering within the question.)

What makes me want to enter a relationship with someone and what makes me want to commit to a relationship with them are two almost entirely different things.

For me to enter into a relationship it's about whether they are hot and socially fun enough.

For me to commit it's how I see them acting long term. What is their earning potential, how is their family (not as in i would have to spend time with them but as an indicator of where they are likely to trend), how do they treat household activities, what are their goals and most important of all: how committed are they to me and the relationship? I also expect my partner to do a similar evaluation of me and if I perceive that they don't then that is disqualifying.

Specific qualities are pretty uninteresting, most things are somewhat negotiable/exchangeable. Although, one attribute that isn't is confidence for men, if you're not able to at least project confidence then you're doomed.

Do you enter relationships with the intent of finding a long term one, or do you expect to perhaps stumble into a long term one maybe? Is long term commitment a goal or just a possible thing that might one day happen to you?

If the latter, your strategy makes sense to me - have fun now, maybe it'll lead somewhere - but if the former, I don't get why you'd waste time on people who have none of the traits you'd want to commit to.

I never had to specifically look for long term qualities in a partner in the first stage but I don't really see that working very well anyway. People falsely advertise all the time. To me it seems better to date in a pool of people that are likely to have the attributes you're looking for than specifically seeking them out.