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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 27, 2023

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This could shape to be peak toxoplasma. A lot of things are still unknown so my thoughts are pure speculation.

28-year-old woman kills 3 students and 3 adults at private Christian school in Nashville, police say

An armed 28-year-old woman fatally shot three students and three adults at a private Christian school in Nashville before she was shot and killed by police, authorities said, in the deadliest school shooting in nearly a year.

The shooter, who was not identified, entered the Covenant School via a side door and was armed with at least two assault-style rifles and a handgun, said Metro Nashville Police spokesperson Don Aaron. She fired multiple shots on the first and second floors of the school, he said.

A five-member team of police officers heard the gunfire, went to the second floor and fatally shot the woman, Aaron said. The first call about the shooting came in at 10:13 a.m. and the shooter was dead 14 minutes later, he said.

Police initially said the shooter appeared to be in her teens but later said she is a 28-year-old White woman who lives in Nashville. Police Chief John Drake said his initial findings showed she was at one point a student at the school. A vehicle was located nearby and gave clues as to the suspect’s identity, he added.

  • The police seemed to have actually acted adequately. It was not Uvalde - so the only thing resembling a good thing in the situation.

  • This is the first mass school shooting by a woman that I know. Probably the first mass shooting I hear at all committed by a woman.

  • The police released the race and age of the shooter, but not name or picture. There was a macabre joke that if the picture is not shown - the shooter is black. She is unidentified so far - which decreases slightly the chances the shooter was far right.

  • Two AR-15 and a handgun ... probably a loadout a bit high unless you are Caleb. (if you get the Blood reference - sorry buddy - you are officially in the risk cohort for covid by age)

  • Low body count - unexperienced shooter.

So I have the suspicion that either the shooter is trans or someone radicalized over Roe v Wade overturn. Also some last minute news outlets started saying female instead of woman. So I guess trans. Anyway CW-wise - will be toxic as hell.

Edit: NBCNews and NYPOST openly call it transgender woman. Not clear if MtF or FtM. And there seems to be manifesto.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nashville-christian-school-shooter-appears-former-student-police-chief-rcna76876

The shooter was identified as Audrey Hale, 28, of Nashville, according to the chief, who said she identifies as transgender.

Glad that we're finally closing the mass shooter gap.

ETA: I'm pretty sure, given the phrasing, that we're talking MtF.

ETA: I'm pretty sure, given the phrasing, that we're talking MtF.

FtM, if this is anything to go by.

FtM, if this is anything to go by.

More FtM school shooters would be (with grim irony) excellent evidence in favor of the "trans people are X minds born in a Y body" framing of the trans phenomenon, as opposed to borderline personality and social contagion which is the more popular explanation here.

I'm not getting any quick google results I trust, but there must be at least 20x as many Gen Z biological males as FtMs. If the ratio of male mass shooters:FtM mass shooters ever converges with the ratio of Male:FtMs in society, that will shift my priors dramatically in favor the LGBT activist framing of the issue being the correct one.

(I'm not suggesting that this ratio will come to pass, but I am registering this in advance as evidence that would falsify my current position.)

Would this actually prove that point?

I feel like it could just prove that masculinizing hormones actually masculinize people, which is hardly a revelation. Plenty of transmen already report anecdotally being quicker to anger, or needing to masturbate more after HRT.

In fact, the inverse being true isn't even catastrophic to the LGBT position. If fewer FtM people are school shooters and violent criminals, then it could be evidence that socialization plays a stronger role in gendered behavior than biology, at least as concerns violent crime. FtM's who are socialized as girls through their early childhood end up less likely to commit crimes than cismen socialized as boys.

Would this actually prove that point? I feel like it could just prove that masculinizing hormones actually masculinize people, which is hardly a revelation. Plenty of transmen already report anecdotally being quicker to anger, or needing to masturbate more after HRT.

It would definitely falsify something about my current position. I understand transitioning to change people at a fairly superficial level.

In fact, the inverse being true isn't even catastrophic to the LGBT position. If fewer FtM people are school shooters and violent criminals, then it could be evidence that socialization plays a stronger role in gendered behavior than biology, at least as concerns violent crime. FtM's who are socialized as girls through their early childhood end up less likely to commit crimes than cismen socialized as boys.

That doesn't follow. Lower FtM crime fits the biological explanation and the socialization one equally well, so it shouldn't update your priors on that point one way or the other.

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