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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 17, 2023

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That’s actually a very good question - the answer is that with feminising HRT, you won’t age as a male at all. Estrogen gives you a feminine fat distribution - hips, breasts and bum instead of a beer belly - along with softer skin. Female-level testosterone means body hair is substantially reduced (although I’m still getting laser to be sure), masculinisation of the face and body is halted, and low DHT ensures you don’t go bald (although you won’t magically recover your hairline if it’s already gone).

My fear of aging as a male was part of my motivations for transitioning, and I’m essentially safe from that now. And past a certain age, both men and women kinda start looking the same anyway, outside of hair loss and facial hair. Men’s testosterone naturally lowers with age, and women are far removed from menopause. Trans woman might even age better than cis women as they don’t go through the latter and can maintain appropriate levels of estrogen indefinitely.

Trans woman might even age better than cis women as they don’t go through the latter and can maintain appropriate levels of estrogen indefinitely.

I think females would also maintain higher levels of estrogen indefinitely if they were supplementing with synthetic hormones?

Yes, in fact post-menopausal women are the biggest consumers of hormone replacement therapy. However it's very tricky and has many potential side effects and risk of some cancers if not adequately managed - I've read studies where it was suggested that the benefits did not outweigh the risk unless it was started before menopause.

So what data do we have on the use of these hormones by males? Facially it's not obvious why these side effects would be sex dependent.

The side effects aren't side effects of HRT, per se, but rather effects of lifetime estrogen exposure. For example, women who start menopause later than average have a higher risk of breast cancer than women who don't - and so do women who go on HRT after menopause. In both cases, the risk comes from an extra X years of exposure to estrogen.

And indeed, those risks exist for trans women too. But someone who transitions as an adult will almost certainly have less lifetime exposure to estrogen than the average cis woman.

What about someone who has their puberty blocked and starts taking the hormones as soon as legally possible?

They'd basically be in the same boat as a cis girl who starts puberty around that time, and if they maintain that same hormone level into old age, they'd be in the same boat as a cis woman who starts HRT at menopause.

Isn't the hormone use going to be mandatory for the rest of their life? (unless they 'detransition' or otherwise change their approach)

This is quite different from women, most of whom don't do HRT after menopause. (and can discontinue it if it's causing issues, without the side effect of changing their gender)

From my understanding, it varies; some transwomen do stop or decrease estrogen usage as they age, while others maintain significant dosages. There's generally reason to be more concerned about heart and circulatory ramifications for those who've been on hormones for longer periods of time. WPATH has clear recommendations to favor transdermal estrogens for >45-year-olds, for one example.

((It's also not very clear how well a lot of this is founded; natal women with hysterectomies had different outcomes than natal women without on hormone therapy, and orchidectomy has its own separate weird ramifications on total lifespan, and insert my normal rant about the state of medical science.))

How could a transwoman age better than a woman?

Isn't the aspiration to be a woman?

If you don't look like a woman in your elder years, aren't you failing your stated goal?

Trans women will look younger than cis-women of the same age is what I meant. Surely you must be familiar with how obsessed many women are with looking younger, how does it not make sense that trans women would aspire to stay youthful as well?

Surely you must be familiar with how obsessed many women are with looking younger, how does it not make sense that trans women would aspire to stay youthful as well?

So your desire is not to be like a woman, but to perform like a woman or even outperform women.

What a coincidence that this is the type of brain impulse that Satan (through the people in charge of society) would like us to adopt.

Let's not care about our nation, our culture, our ancestors, our descendants

  • a woman is not defined by the family she can create - a woman is shiny teeth, clear skin and luscious hair.

The easiest way to look like a woman would be to become morbidly obese.

Look how similar a morbidly man and woman look next to each other.

It seems possible that you may be suffering from some form of anorexia.

I was watching the Cartoon Network the other day and they have ads playing every 10min, among which ones for skin rejuvenating products. Probably targeted at women who keep the TV on for their kids.

Is it possible that early exposure to constant streams of such media somehow met a sensitive hormonal terrain in you and induced you to desire becoming the youthful, attractive, happy woman in the ad?

Either way, the industrial society and its consequences are certainly to blame, and I hope for your sake that the Science somehow finds a cure, and I remind everybody to vote by mail.

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