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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 24, 2023

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Can you define exactly what you believe the term "HBDer" includes and excludes?

There has been some discussion already about the different between "fact-based" HBD and "political" HBD. I would generally fall into the former category: I believe there probably are evolutionary differences in behavior and intelligence among human population groups. I am mostly referring to the "political" HBDers who use this as justification for arguing that we should "recognize" these differences (the degree and manner to which they want to "recognize" them varies) in our social and political policies.

This is just ceding yet another rung on the euphemism treadmill. The group you're describing as "political" HBD will latch onto any phrase that describes the observation. We can't just always give them the control over it or the only two stable positions anyone will be able to refer to will be occupied by people who are wrong.

Well, HBD is a euphemism too, though it's probably more accurate and less charged than "race realist."

Anyway, I am basically disagreeing with @FCfromSSC and @HlynkaCG that HBDers are direct descendants of old-school progressive eugenicists.

Yes, HBDers are less optimistic than classic progressive eugenicists.

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