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Moonshot Personal Growth Idea

There are a lot of smart, hyper-informed people on here (don't be bashful). Each probably have 1-5 topics they know A LOT about, who could deliver a knowledgable spiel over voice or text without much effort and intelligently field any number of follow-up questions. So it occurs to me there might be a big educational opportunity for me here if I can capture some of this low-hanging fruit.

I don't know much about American politics, health, business, etc., but eagerly want to know more, and I'm happy to talk over discord/phone/voice or text depending on your preferences. Some topics to jog your brain; if it strikes you that "hey, I actually got obsessed with topic 23 one time and learned everything you could possibly know about it over a 6 month period," please consider reaching out to me. I'll adopt a position indicated by either "pro" or "con" provisionally just to inspire engagement (my actual views here are very low-confidence and "pro/con" means something more like "I've heard interesting arguments for this side of the issue that I want an intelligent person who knows more than I do to explain the merits of to me" than "this is what I believe.")

  1. “The current level of military spending is justified.” Pro

  2. “The typical white male is utterly blameless for the circumstances of the African American community” Pro

  3. "The growth of transgender identity and bisexuality have the character of a social contagion" Pro (Is bisexuality created or only revealed by the environment? Is anyone bisexual because of encouragement, or is the absence of discouragement the only environmental factor that does anything to affect rates of ID?) (Caplan)

  4. “Asian romantic preferences are morally permissible.” Pro

  5. “De facto interrogational torture by the US is justified.” Pro

  6. "Extraterrestrial life is the best explanation of some UFO sightings" Con

  7. “Any minimum wage fails a purely utilitarian cost benefit test due to disemployment effects.” Pro

  8. "Joe Biden's Net Zero Emissions by 2050 Would Be Disastrous," (Or: Cost benefit analysis puts several other environmental causes ahead of climate change.)

  9. "Feminism is bad for women." (a la Bryan Caplan)

  10. "Conventional medicine barely makes us healthier" (as seen in Robin Hanson's case for radical medical skepticism, from the RAND Health insurance experiment to the replication crisis http://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/feardie.pdf)

  11. "Dietary research is of such poor quality that we know almost nothing about whether any given major diet fad is truly the ideal diet." (Pro) (I would be willing to take the even stronger position that we don't even know ANYTHING about the right diet just to see what a smart, informed person would say in response to better calibrate my reasoning on this issue)

  12. "Most of life is a prestige-signaling game./Social status is the closest thing to a one-variable explanation for everything, and does far better than the traditional rival models like sex or money."

  13. "Diversity is our strength." Pro

  14. "Society does not clearly treat one sex more unfairly than the other." (Pro)

  15. "IQ is real and a major determinant of social outcomes" Pro

  16. "Racial groups differ in socially relevant ways for genetic reasons." Con

  17. “Capitalists deserve their success.” Pro

  18. "Money doesn't really buy happiness." Pro

  19. “The solution to traffic is congestion pricing (tolls)” Pro

  20. "Actions taken by the Biden Admin during the Covid pandemic were generally justified." Not enough info to sway either way

  21. “We should deregulate construction completely.” Pro

  22. “Workers are not underpaid in competitive business environments.” Pro

  23. Question: How do taxes work, and how SHOULD they work?

  24. “Affirmative action is immoral/harmful.” Pro

  25. “State-mandated wealth redistribution is immoral./Wealth inequality is not a serious social problem” Pro

  26. “Abortion is morally permissible.” Pro

  27. “We should put America First” pro

  28. “It is not possible to be a good criminal defense lawyer AND a good person.” Pro

  29. “We should privatize everything.” Pro

  30. “The poor generally deserve to be poor.” “American wealth inequality is generally fair.” (as seen in remarks made by Caplan re: the so-called "success sequence")

  31. “Gender is essentially biological.” Pro (Tomas Bogardus, Alex Byrne)

  32. “We should remove confederate monuments.” Con

  33. “We should not provide trigger warnings/safety culture actually harms mental health.” Pro (Jonathan Haidt)

  34. “We Should Stop Talking about Privilege” pro

  35. “Immigration is Not a Human Right.” Con

  36. “The Death Penalty is Immoral” pro

  37. “The typical meat eater does nothing wrong.” Pro

  38. “Political correctness is just politeness.” Con

  39. “There are no positive rights; There is no right to healthcare or education.” Pro

  40. “Utilitarianism is a bad moral theory.” Pro

  41. “It isn’t morally wrong to misgender a trans person.” Pro

  42. “Artificial intelligence is not an existential risk.” Pro

  43. “We should not have gun control.” Pro

  44. “We should segregate intimate public spaces by biological sex.” Or: “it is not morally wrong to do so.” Pro

  45. “It’s morally wrong for the average voter to vote; we should try to decrease voter turnout.” Pro

  46. “It’s morally permissible to racially profile.” Pro

  47. “Psychological egoism is false.” Pro or con

  48. “Ethical egoism is false.” Pro

  49. “Racial discrimination is not inherently immoral.” Pro

  50. “Businesses may racially select their customers.” Pro

  51. “Equality of opportunity is morally undesirable.” Pro

  52. “Mixed martial arts don’t violate anyone’s rights.” Pro

  53. “We are morally obligated to tip servers.” Pro

  54. “Hazing should be permitted on college campuses.” Pro

  55. “It is just to punish criminals for the sake of causing suffering to people who deserve it.” Pro or con, preferably con

  56. “If we ought to be taxed more, we ought to donate our excess income.” (“Rich socialists/distributive egalitarians are hypocrites.”) pro

  57. “It’s morally permissible to sell oneself into permanent slavery.” Pro

  58. “There is no duty to hire the most qualified applicant.” Pro

  59. “We should completely deregulate the provision of healthcare services.” Pro

  60. “We should not require occupational licensing by law (for doctors, plumbers, or lawyers).” Pro

  61. “Workplace quality and safety regulations are bad for workers.” Pro

  62. “We should not dispense racial reparations to the black community.” Pro

  63. Con “alcoholics (and drug addicts in general) are nonresponsible victims”

  64. Pro: “Race is biologically real”

  65. Pro:“The rich pay their fair share”

  66. “Exploitation isn’t wrong.” Pro

  67. “Free market pricing is a better distributor than queuing” Pro

  68. “Price gouging is fine.” Pro

  69. “The casting couch is just prostitution” Pro

  70. “Affirmative Action is systemically racist” Pro

  71. “Colleges are guilty of negligent advertising” pro

  72. "We should we abolish civil rights law" (Richard Hanania)

  73. “Gender is essentially biological” pro

TL;DR Looking for someone to explain American politics to me, preferably over discord voice. Especially interested in topics like happiness, relationship success, American public policy (esp. healthcare and the budget)

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I thought Wolfers conceded to Caplan on his blog that the effect size is ridiculously small (like, you would need a million dollars in yearly income to actually raise your happiness by 1 SD). Wolfers responds to Caplan: https://www.econlib.org/archives/2014/02/wolfers_respond.html Caplan: http://www.econlib.org/archives/2014/02/the_wolfers_equ.html

Not convinced? Consider: Wolfers’ result implies that to raise happiness by one standard deviation, you have to raise income by 1/.35=2.86 log points. How much is that exactly? In percentage terms, that’s (e^2.86)-1 – an increase of 1,640%. So if you currently earn $50,000, Wolfers’ coefficient implies you’d need an extra $820,585 per year to durably increase your happiness by one lousy standard deviation. In math, that’s not “zero effect of income on happiness.” But in English, it basically is.

I think this question is very hung up in the complexity of the concept of 'happiness' (and possibly also confounded by correlations between who does and doesn't have money. The richest people I know are also the most stressed out because they are rich because they're broken in a never ending quest of career and financial improvement. But if you took a well adjusted middle class family man and paid of his house, I bet he'd become happier.)

In terms of the complexity of happiness, I am a pretty happy guy dispositionally. I have a positive attitude, I'm relatively low stress and I love the simple things in my life. It's true that on a daily hedonic level, it would be hard to make money adjust by day-to-day mood all that much. I suspect it's also true of people dispositionally unhappy, restless, etc.

On a more fundamental level, my sense of value and meaning in the world is tied to my philosophical and religious beliefs as well as some deep ingrained pre-dispositions (like hating change, and being naturally nostalgic). Again, I doubt money could change that much, or possibly negatively.

But between my deep sense of happiness and my daily mood/disposition, I think there's a middle concept of happiness that would be helped greatly with more money. If the stress of working, saving could be reduce, the opportunity cost of my time, etc. It would affect my ' middle happiness' quite a bit.

Once you've got to the point of "all my basic needs are met, I'm not in debt, I've helped out my family who need it, and now I have fuck-you money left over so if I lose my job in the morning I'm okay", then you don't get much extra value from more money.

At that level, now you're comparing yourself not to your former circumstances, but the new levels of rich people around you. Sure, I have ten million, but that's not rich, that's just comfortable! That guy has twenty million, and that other guy is a billionaire! I'm nothing compared to a billionaire!

And then the billionaires are at the levels of "okay so I own three superyachts, but I don't have my own space rockets like that other guy".

Income isn't just skewed, it has a very long tail. Many variables have much more compact distributions. Happiness doesn't have natural units and could be distributed however you want depending on how you measure it, although it would be weird to me if the range of feelings human brains were capable of expressing spanned such a wide distribution (also something something CLT handwaving arguments, emotions are the sum of many small features).

1 SD can be a substantial impact, but if the result above is correct, it would be very difficult to obtain by increasing one's income from typical means (promotion, career change, getting an advanced degree, etc).

To go from median to +1SD requires that you jump past 34% of the population, no matter how compact or spread the variable is

I'm pretty sure this is not correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/68%E2%80%9395%E2%80%9399.7_rule only applies to the normal distribution and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev%27s_inequality gives no minimum at all for the portion of the distribution within 1 SD. And of course, this is all assuming that the standard deviation is even finite, which it may not be.

inherently by talking in standard deviations, we are talking in ordinal terms not absolute terms.

I don't follow. Ordinal data can't have a SD, since it by definition corresponds to an ordering or categorization of data, without meaningful numeric values assigned.

Yes, which is mostly a remark on just how huge 1 SD is

But 1 SD income seems like a lot, while 1 SD of height (about 2.5 inches) seems like it's not a lot. I don't think it's meaningful to talk about 1 SD being intuitively big or small since it depends on the variable in question.

Those things aren't typically enough to move you up by 1 SD of income. So even postulating a perfect correlation between the two you wouldn't expect a sub-1-SD rise in income to yield a 1SD+ rise in happiness.

That's fair (although the correlation isn't even defined if income has infinite variance).

I think it depends on what's really at stake. I don't think money can buy happiness in the sense that I'd be significantly happier with a bunch of stuff I don't already have or couldn't already afford. I think it can buy happiness, though, in the sense that I'd be a lot happier if I never had to worry about money. A million dollars invested in 30 year treasury bonds will net you about 40k/year in tax free money, a pretty nice supplement to your existing income. 2 million would give you damn near enough to retire on if you invested what you would have been paying in taxes into a retirement fund to get ahead of inflation and maybe take up a part-time job as a raft guide or ski instructor for beer and cigarette money. For most people enough extra money to pay off their mortgage or student loans would make them feel like they were independently wealthy.

Back when I did consumer bankruptcy the effect that financial problems can have on people's lives really hit home. People would find themselves in untenable situations that caused a ton of anxiety and strained relationships (just due to stress and arguments, not borrowing money) and the constant fear that they were one step away from living in a cardboard box. When I told them to stop paying their bills until they had enough money for my fee and then after that the way out was pretty straightforward, the emotional catharsis was always palpable. Some people would break down crying when I told them there was a way out (usually after they had cried considerably when they explained their position). That aside, I couldn't begin to count the number of times clients called to schedule their filing meeting and told me how they felt like they were walking on air as they were leaving the initial consultation. Now to think that there are people who go through that anxiety all the time because their problem isn't so much debt as it is not making enough money, or not being consistently employed, then I can believe that an injection of money large enough to provide a decent cushion would make one significantly happier.