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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/shows/meetthepress/blog/rcna90023
Apparently there’s been a big drop in conservative support for gay marriage, all in the space of a year.
I think this says a lot, mainly because it’s a point I see brought up by a lot of the blackpillers in this community “look, look - even conservatives support gay marriage now, there’s no stopping progressivism”.
Well, what now? Apparently the left has pushed too hard and too fast and it’s turning the GOP away. Being LGBT isn’t seen as some harmless thing anymore, especially when it seems being “tolerant” means accepting gay drag nuns on crucifixes. The parodies are no longer a parody, and grooming children to accept gender ideology seems rife in schools even in deep red states.
Recently I read about a Muslim city in america voting to ban the pride flag. This is just one example of the incoming shift and realignment being forced by progressive extremism becoming more forcibly mainstream
I think this 'toss captures very well the feelings of a lot of people on the right wing.
It's easy being pro-gay when they're being thrown off roofs by your religious ennemies and only demand the same rights as everybody else.
It's much harder when they're arguing that your kids should be exposed to graphic pornography, lewd spectacles and make political alliances to destroy you.
Activists have failed to understand the same thing they failed to understand about abortion: that it was a compromise not a surrender.
They've made all the arguments about there not being a slippery slope, that all they wanted was just this one decent thing, and then once they got it, proceeded to just keep on pushing for more radical things. Evoking directly the feeling that used to be the butt of the joke made of their ennemies.
As someone who was on the other side of the argument back then, I've had some introspection about how much more consideration I should now give to the bible thumping bigots I used to dismiss, because they were right and I was wrong.
These days I'm about of the opinion that the proper place for my people in society is one of discrete indifference, which is why I was always skeptical of "pride" and now even of the idea of a marriage that very few actually use in practice. I've always feared this push for celebration of what physically can't be adopted by everybody would create some backlash that would push the West towards a more Islamic direct confrontation, and here we are.
This is where I wound up as well. I was aggressively in favor of gay marriage, but I have to admit that I was plainly wrong about there not being any slippery slope. I genuinely thought that gay marriage represented the end point of winning equal rights for gay people, not just another battle on the way to whatever weirdness comes next. Such is the peril of youth, I suppose.
What's wild to me is how many of the activists that I thought I was on the same side as, but am now significantly to the right of, don't seem to have any personal memory of having held a position other than insisting that government funding of trans hormones for kids was morally obligatory and constitutionally required. The number that must have actually thought that a decade ago must have been vanishingly small (the term "gender-affirming" didn't even exist yet), but it is now the bog-standard Democrat position.
If I had to guess, those Democrats hadn't given any significant thought to the issue beforehand. So when it became a culture war topic, their first exposure to it was through the lens of the party-approved messaging. Thus, Democrats can credibly say that as long as they've been considering it, they've been in favor of giving "trans kids" hormone treatments.
The reason they hadn't considered it beforehand, of course, is that it's so completely insane that it would never enter an average person's mind except in the most cartoonish dystopian cartoons.
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