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Alright, but that's just grounds to fix all of them, not declare that what the Hasids do doesn't matter.
Edit: Also, that's an incendiary and divisive way of speaking about them. They have a different view on what makes someone a better citizen, and would describe you as trying to bring back a reactionary and bigoted government. Neither your accusation nor theirs is conducive to the discussion.
Fair enough. Once we've made all the public schools cost-effective, educational and nonpartisan, the Hasidim are next.
Interesting, does that mean you're okay with continuing to give them that money?
Yes and no.
At the most macro level, no. I don't want my tax dollars going to fund religious groups at all.
Given the fact that I don't get a choice in this, my money is going to religious groups, I find the orthodox relatively unobjectionable. Certainly and clearly better than Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, LDS, Academics, etc. On numbers alone if nothing else, they just aren't a priority problem to me. I don't see how they could be for anyone given their insular behavior. They aren't proselytizing, they aren't bombing shit, they aren't doing drive-bys. They're scamming the welfare system so they can sit in tiny rooms and argue about the Talmud rather than man a deli counter. If we're going to waste the taxpayer's money (and, I hope we can agree, we are), our country could do a lot worse, and does so on a regular basis.
If I were king, I would end all federal money going to schools, period. There's no such thing as secular education, so the state should GTFO. But that's not a political possibility, so we're talking about the least-bad policy to have. Lots of religions run this sort of scam, there was a whole thing in Minneapolis about Somali day-care centers that involved a lot of graft a few years back. I suspect which one people get outraged about depends on whether they consider jews or muslims to be their outgroup.
The only interesting thing I see here is that apparently, the NYT considers orthodox jews to be outgroup now.
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