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Wellness Wednesday for July 5, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

  • Requests for advice and / or encouragement. On basically any topic and for any scale of problem.

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Hell, I even thought of pinging you when I saw this mod come out:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2996971119

Hah, entertaining. Hadn't thought of that one myself :D

From a gameplay standpoint . . . I dunno, one downside to stuff like this is that it makes it much easier to grind specific difficult jobs. It's kind of weird if you have a doctor just waiting for someone to get injured so they can chaintend them for the next three days straight, right? Maybe "xp is granted only for the first tend" but now we're adding weird unintuitive explanations to it. And this still cuts down a lot on the risk factor of choosing who gets tended with what medicine.

I think this might be an example of something that (1) doesn't result in good gameplay, and (2) isn't even necessarily realistic - like, if an apprentice doctor cleans a wound badly, well, it's possible they did damage that cannot be fixed, and if we're diving so deep into this that we're trying to simulate that as well then the question becomes "is this the best use of developer time or can we find something to work on with better bang for buck".

(Another thing that drives me up the wall is the inability to have multiple doctors perform procedures in parallel or cooperatively, from a gameplay perspective it would certainly make having more than 1 or 2 or them worth it, or multiple pawns working together at all)

This sort of thing might just be code complexity; Rimworld's job system doesn't really support "two people working on one project", and it's unclear if it would be worth building it just for something like this. (In this context, "actions on a specific character" is a project - the character is locked until the task is finished, so even "two people working on unrelated surgery jobs" would be hard to implement.)

I strongly suspect that in a counterfactual world where this had been the default implementation (with additional balancing), there would a clamoring crowd of precisely zero people who'd be advocating for the version Rimworld has today.

I can certainly think of trivial solutions, like a critical failure in tending exacerbating the wounds or progressing an infection (the latter is more dubious, but I can suspend my disbelief, if we assume that represents crappy quality of care spreading an infection to other parts of the body)

In this context, "actions on a specific character" is a project - the character is locked until the task is finished, so even "two people working on unrelated surgery jobs" would be hard to implement

From the Ideology DLC, it seems to me that there are mechanisms in place to make pawns gather at one spot and surround it.

I might be wrong, but I can see an implementation that simply has two or more doctor pawns standing at the bedside, throw up an interaction taskbar, and then have the process proceed according to a weighted value of their skills. It should certainly be sublinear and have diminishing returns with added pawns and medical skill, there's a reason we don't usually have 20 surgeons elbowing each other at work on a single patient haha.

The Biotech DLC sort of does this during childbirth with the midwife, and one bystander, usually the spouse, standing close by.

Now I'm no expert, if this thread hadn't revealed that, but unless the code is really spaghetti, it should be a tractable problem.

While I'm on it, I'd much rather diseases be of the communicable sort where possible, since I don't see how an isolated colony in the middle of nowhere can develop the flu or plague all at once. (I'd hate to see their Epidemiologists grapple with social distancing when Covid-5500 hits).

It could be a hidden hediff for visitors or traders, with a small chance of being spread.

But of course if I nitpicked every little detail in Rimworld that drove me up the wall, we'd be here all day. Suffice to say that I have 600+ mods of which I'd call 200+ "must haves", that should illustrate my degree of dissatisfaction with the base game haha.