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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023

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given that community used to be significantly more supportive of pedophilia and has been backpedaling on it for decades.

The usual argument is that they kicked out NAMBLA et al from the movement in order to gain mainstream acceptance, amd now that they have it and homosexuality has been normalized they are returning to their original goals (and more).

I don’t think it passes the smell test that LGBT people, or the movement, or a representative sampling of the movement’s leaders, or the smoke-filled back room where George Soros, the local Masonic lodge head, and some lizard people decide the aims of the LGBT movement, are pro pedophilia. I think that it’s very defensible to claim that gay male sexual norms around consent, the age thereof, harassment, and the like would be very, very bad to have adopted more widely, and that LGBT leaders have a history of overlooking pedophiles among their supporters alternating with purging them, and that trans activism prioritizes trans stuff over well established institutional knowledge for child protection and that the combination thereof will probably be used as cover for pedophilia at some point, either of the ‘kind of a creep with teenagers’ kind or of the kind this movie is about. I think it’s further fair to say that culture war dynamics might prevent that from getting shut down.

I think that it’s very defensible to claim that gay male sexual norms around consent, the age thereof, harassment, and the like would be very, very bad to have adopted more widely

I don’t think it passes the smell test that LGBT people, or the movement... are pro pedophilia

Those two statements seem directly in contradiction to me

Gay male culture seems like a survival of 70’s macho sexually aggressive norms, which includes a lot of having sex with teens being socially acceptable. Obviously that’s a different thing from out and out pedophilia, and it gets treated differently at least when gay men do it(probably more because society doesn’t actually care that much about teenaged boys having sex with adults, even if it’s technically illegal and their parents probably aren’t thrilled, than because LGBT gets special privileges).

So they were all secretly pro-paedophilia but kept it a secret for 30 years? You would think with such an enormous conspiracy there'd be a whistleblower at some point. Surely there are people in LGBT circles who are high-ranking enough that they would be in on it but who don't actually support paedophilia.

I don’t think it works that way. It’s more that the organizations were kicking out NAMBLA over optics not principles, and should those optics no longer be a problem, then they stop policing the ranks for pedophilia.

The argument usually isn't that there's an explicit conspiracy by the LGBT community, simply that LGBT and pedophilia are natural fellow travellers. And given the enormously higher chance that gays and lesbians were sexually abused as kids and/or had significant inappropriate sexual experiences as a kid*, combined with the higher likelihood of those who were sexually abused as children to themselves become pedophiles**, the basic idea isn't that far fetched.

*: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/

**: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2082860/