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Small-Scale Question Sunday for July 16, 2023

Do you have a dumb question that you're kind of embarrassed to ask in the main thread? Is there something you're just not sure about?

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Is anyone of the opinion that even honest, non-coercive casual sex is immoral, for secular reasons? I think I share a common preference among men that I’d rarely pass up on a hookup with an attractive woman but would probably not date a woman long-term who has slept around too much (“too much” is probably decided on a case-by-case basis and there are other factors involved). I can see how that’s hypocritical in one sense. And according to my own value system, I’m denigrating the value of women I have no long-term intentions with but other men with my shared preferences might. But a certain libertarian perspective also says “whatever is honest, legal, and uncoerced is ethical” and men (including me, probably) will just have to learn to settle later in life for women with a higher body count than they deem acceptable.

There's no need for a "moral" justification when it comes to preferring chaste women for long-term relationships. Potentially wifing up a hoe gives most men a sense of male ick, just as short, low status, sexually unsuccessful, physically and/or mentally weak men give women the ick.

It's not like women feel compelled to "morally" justify their preferences. At most when they get cornered, it gets rolled into Merited Impossibility/Celebration Parallax: "No, women aren't shallow and don't care about things like height, but if we do it's only because all you stupid manlets deserve it." Men should internalise that, like those of women, their preferences are legitimate in and of themselves.

Interesting. It's long been the case that short guys have to be remarkable if they want decent partners. This being said. I've observed two clusters of promiscuous women. The first isn't satisfied with herself or her life, and seeks casual encounters to numb an inner pain. The second is an adrenaline junkie and generally plans things well. The second type frequently does pretty well in life: loving, put together husbands, kids if they want them...The first type doesn't do as well.