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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 24, 2023

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I mean I've been to places like that. It is refreshing in a way, but you don't really get the proper experience as a tourist.

Plus none of that is needed, I can just go to my cabin in the woods.

But all my personal tribulations make your quest for comfort that has sacrificed freedom and humanity no less evil, of course.

Claiming that typical people nowadays have less agency than medieval serf is a quite wild claim.

How many years of manual labor do you need to buy a dwelling for you and your family? How much free time do you have per day? Per year? How much control do other humans have on the way you live your daily life? How many hours do you have away from anybody? How much do you pay in taxes? Can you be conscripted in an army against your will?

I don't find it wild at all personally once you actually look at what is going on instead of the stories people tell about what is going on.

But of course the only answer when we start to look at the grim reality of modern man is to clutch at the true purpose: comfort. Oh but wouldn't you just get sick and die, wouldn't it all be very hard work? Yes, but at least you would have lived a human life and not that of a machine.

I'm not stopping you from retiring to your cabin in the woods where you can bask in the absence of civilization all you want, while you don't seem to be satisfied unless everyone is plunged there along with you. I find your way far more imposing on freedom.

Unfortunately if you did practice what you preach you wouldn't be able to prove it because you wouldn't have network.

I find your way far more imposing on freedom.

Somehow, though I've found a lot of red tape to constrain me to live away from civilization, I fail to see the coercion I have ever generated.

Must be of the invisible sort that only exists to grasp at when one doesn't want to consider alternatives to their position.

You sound like the people who call out socialists for using phones made by capitalism or call out Christians for not being socialists like they imagine Jesus was. Have you considered that people can have belief systems that aren't constrained by the principes you yourself hold?

Cop-out. Is a communist blameless because right until his party took power, he had not coerced anybody?

This is a nonsense question, communists do not believe coercion is immoral.

But I fail to see how this is relevant to my position. I'm merely exiting from society. Are you saying I deserve blame because I intend to create a society you disapprove of once this one is done for?

Am I, the individual, unfairly restricting the will of the State by having thoughts and desires that go against its will? Is mere dissent a moral crime? Well tough shit, I'm not a fascist.

If fellow serfists came to power and reinstated serfdom by force, what would you do?

Do you equally take responsibility for all the impositions of the system you're currently defending?

I mean sure. If reactionaries or communists tried to take power, the bullets are on me. This is the point where discussion ends and my support of modernity, democracy, etc, gets a little more concrete. And even in peacetime, I take responsibility for the blood on the hands of the government I support.

And even in peacetime, I take responsibility for the blood on the hands of the government I support.

Based on my understanding of the amount and nature of that blood, I would not willingly do that, but I suppose we all must stand by our convictions.

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