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If you're convinced establishment Republicans won't help you, then vote them out and get people in office who will. And if those new people don't do a good enough job, vote them out as well and get new people in. A big part of the problem for conservatives is that they kept voting in Romneycrats prior to 2016 who did almost nothing to help win the culture wars. Instead of fixing the problem, they developed learned helplessness like "Cthulhu always swims left".
Trump was a step in the right direction, but had clear flaws. Instead of trying to get a more reliable candidate though, most Republicans seem content to turn the party into Trump's cult of personality.
I am not able to vote out any Republican politicians because none represent me.
Trump is completely reliable. I can rely on him to fight.
If you consider tweeting and grandstanding followed by policy reversals when things are criticized on cable news, then sure, Trump is your guy.
That doesn't seem like a very good strategy to win though. Hence why most of Trump's limited accomplishments while in office came from McConell appointing conservative SCOTUS justices, i.e. stuff any Republican president with a heartbeat could have done.
He didn't appoint any squishes to the supreme court which is better than virtually all Republican presidents before him in recent memory.
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Josh Blackman recently had a series of "Conservatives should not be surprised by [disappointing features of Trump's SCOTUS appointments]". He has takes on Gorsuch/Kavanaugh, too, but if you're interested in considering disappointing features of ACB, here is a possibility.
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How much of that is the federalist society created a pipeline?
They certainly help quite a bit, but they had a lot of influence in both Bushes who each nominated a squishy justice and Bush the Lesser tried to nominate Harriet Miers, a complete wildcard.
Perhaps luck or perhaps weakness (in that he had to precommit to a list) but I think it's possibly his own effort, too.
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TBH there’s some smaller scale stuff he did like reviving the federal death penalty which may not have happened under President Jeb!
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