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Richard Hanania is a man whom I do not always agree with but do appreciate for successfully pissing off people both on the left and the right. The ability to piss off people from both of those groups is, in my opinion, generally correlated with being right about things.

Well, Hanania has allegedly been linked to a pseudonym. The allegation is that about 10 years ago, he was routinely saying taboo things about race and gender issues under the name "Richard Hoste".

Some quotes:

It has been suggested that Sarah Palin is a sort of Rorschach test for Americans [...] The attractive, religious and fertile White woman drove the ugly, secular and barren White self-hating and Jewish elite absolutely mad well before there were any questions about her qualifications.

If they had decency, blacks would thank the white race for everything that they have.

Women simply didn’t evolve to be the decision makers in society [...] women’s liberation = the end of human civilization.

It's nothing very shocking for those of us who read dissident right stuff, and it's not even really that far away from Hanania's typical under-his-birth-name writing. But it may be a bridge too far for much of the more mainstream audience.

What I wonder is, which way shall Hanania go?

  1. Own it, say "yes I am Richard Hoste and I did write those things"? He would gain praise from some people for honesty, but he would also stand probably a pretty good chance of losing book deals, interviews with some mainstream figures, and so on.

  2. Deny deny deny?

  3. Ignore it?

I think that it is an interesting case study, the attempted take down of one of the more famous examples of what is now a pretty common sort of political writer: the Substacker whose views are just controversial and taboo enough to have a lot of appeal for non-mainstream audiences but are not so far into tabooness, in content and/or tone, to get the author branded a full-on thought-criminal.

I'm not familiar with this guy but I think the obvious solution is to never, under any circumstances, apologize for sins against the Left. I'm reminded of the scene from Darkest Hour where Churchill, referring to peace talks with Hitler, yells "you cannot reason with a tiger when your head is stuck in its mouth!" The Left -- that is, the mass of men and women who are in control of nearly every relevant channel of Western power and influence -- aren't interested in conversation. They're interested in grinding their enemies under heel. They are the tiger, and even the most well-meaning attempts of conservatives to roll over and play the deferential gentleman get them eaten. But oh, how very gracefully those posh conservatives bowed their heads and accepted martyrdom! It won't achieve anything. The Christians with whom I stand should model themselves after the crusaders. More Richard the Lionheart and less Thomas a Kempis.

Rightists do change their beliefs like any honest person. They should be candid about that. But these changes should be framed as intellectual corrections or, at worst, correcting youthful intemperance. Never, ever, should they use Leftist semiotics (saying, "I commit to doing better," or "I apologize for my past hurtful words" is self-immolation). In other words, if you're being accused of right-wing dogwhistling then you're doing it right. Either way the Left hates the Right. They should make themselves worth the hatred.

If all that seems too rigid, then know I think these rules necessary guardrails against the conservative inclination to seek compromise. That leads to the "speed-limit conservatism" of the National Review crowd. Those people exemplify the chief problem with conservatism. The problem isn't a lack of clear policy goals or manifestos or books about the glories of Western civilization. Books are dead when their words don't fill the chests of men. The problem is that conservatives are old and bloodless. Bronze Age Pervert's book isn't a sane or articulate political project. It voices a spirit which moves and animates everything else. The actual content of the book is all performative insanity -- nobody would seriously consider comparing Mitt Romney to Alcibiades unless they're joshing around. BAP is a full-on thought-criminal who attracts just the people he needs to attract: serious young men with spines who are looking to armor themselves for the eventual crackdown their overlords will visit upon them. These men don't need another thought-piece about changing the Leftist orthodoxy from within. They need to find communities of other, understanding men with whom to build themselves against the world.

If it seems like I'm not addressing your main question, then know that's partly because I'm not familiar with Hanania (though it looks like I should be!). The best option you present appears to be #3: ignore what's going on. Not because he's ashamed or looking for approval, but because it isn't worth his time to explain himself. His silence is the answer. Eventually he might be forced to address the issue. Then he should just be honest about why he's changed his views, using parameters similar to what I outlined above. Avoiding an apologetic tone is crucial. The very young men the dissident right appeals to will sniff that stuff out as weakness, and deservedly so.

The actual content of the book is all performative insanity -- nobody would seriously consider comparing Mitt Romney to Alcibiades unless they're joshing around. BAP is a full-on thought-criminal who attracts just the people he needs to attract: serious young men with spines who are looking to armor themselves for the eventual crackdown their overlords will visit upon them

I honestly think this is cope for the fact that BAP and people who like him genuinely believes a lot of straightforwardly false ideas. "The mean of the white IQ distribution is significantly higher than that of the black IQ distribution and that means more white people should have positions of influence than black people" - okay. "Race mixing pollutes the nobility of the Nordic Races and races have different spirits. white people are superior to asian bugmen" - not true at all. (ten more examples elided). And, yeah, it's pointless arguing whether or not BAP 'really believes this', maybe it's all a big joke. But a large portion of the internet far right he associates with, e.g. people he retweets on twitter, clearly do believe it - both from their public posts and (if you imagine they're joking too) private conversations. These are precisely the serious young men you mention. What prevents this resurgence of far-right ideas from descending into romantic fantasies and failing to accomplish anything? Those "serious young men with spines" satisfy their animals spirits translating old texts or dreaming of conquering a small african country, while ... lifting weights and posting on twitter, or plotting to reduce illegal immigration by 30% or introduce tariffs in the next Trump admin.

They need to find communities of other, understanding men with whom to build themselves against the world.

You can imagine your Based Marketing Firm or Based Dating App is a mannerbund all you want. It's still responding to the demands of the market, selling slop to consumers. The 'world' isn't going anywhere - technology's taking it over, the 'liberal' global economy is more capable than ever and 'satisfying consumers' as well as it ever has.

Seriously, it's worth meditating on the lack of practical meaning within this statement:

serious young men with spines who are looking to armor themselves for the eventual crackdown their overlords will visit upon them. These men don't need another thought-piece about changing the Leftist orthodoxy from within. They need to find communities of other, understanding men with whom to build themselves against the world.

How are they 'armoring themselves'? 'Communities of men building themselves against the world'? I keep hearing stuff like 'build brotherhoods of men / institutions that will survive the collapse, and pick up the pieces in the harsh world to come'. But ... that isn't happening. AGI catastrophe is more plausible than that. It's hard to think of a material way that 2020 is worse off than 1980, and 1970-1980s america didn't collapse.

IQ

You surely know but BAP isn't too keen on HBD and IQ-focused discourse; or rather, his notion of evaluation methodology, «racial hierarchy», desirable qualities and perhaps even the mechanics involved are all entirely different from the Sailerite school of thought (which is why I'm pissed when everyone on the dissident right is rounded up to a Nazi; no you fools, at least appreciate the vibrant diversity of other doctrines which are every bit as irreconcilable with yours, it's an honor to be hated from so many different angles!). And it's not about Nordics as such, he preaches exactly what it says on the tin – Bronse Age mindset, bodybuilders on horseback.

It's hard to think of a material way that 2020 is worse off than 1980, and 1970-1980s america didn't collapse.

I dislike the phrase "techno-solutionism" but it ought to be recognized how much of our "not worse off" depends on outracing the decline. Opinions differ as to how sustainable that is. I do not foresee or dream of a collapse, but I'm also not looking forward to this kind of dysfunctional culture being empowered by technology indefinitely.

He's made many positive comments about IQ, HBD, and such, alongside negative ones. I'm arguing his other 'evaluation methodologies' are more literary hallucinations than they are real.

And it's not about Nordics as such, he preaches exactly what it says on the tin – Bronse Age mindset, bodybuilders on horseback.

In his twitter or podcasts, he makes many specific claims about races! I think these are almost always false.

depends on outracing the decline.

I specifically mentioned 1980 because of the crime wave - property crime rates are down significantly since then (both by statistics and by anecdote/vibe). I don't think there is an advancing decline along any material standpoints. Any such theft or damage is bad, and simple but somewhat harsh policy changes would easily deter those people and similar, but I don't think there's any active decline, just stasis or improvement atm.

I don't think there is an advancing decline along any material standpoints.

Rates of family formation, real purchasing power among people who earn a salary, energy consumption per capita (never recovered from the 1970s crisis!), fentanyl addiction rates, US homeless population, oil discoveries, increased rate of adverse weather events due to climate change, rise of a surveillance state, rise of a surveillance marketing system, US military corruption, US manufacturing capacity, US infrastructure maintenance...

I strongly appreciate engagement with my point!

Rates of family formation

It's reasonable to replace this with two factors: fertility rate, and % of children living with two parents. The current fertility rate is .001 off from the rate of 1980! I think a lot of that is immigrants having higher birth rates and arbitrary luck that 1980 happened to be the lowest fertility of that era. I agree that not having two parents isn't ideal, but it's plateaued since 1990, and doesn't represent a meaningful decline for the middle and upper-class americans who still have reasonable families. It's still unfortunate.

energy consumption per capita

This is misleading imo, like citing coal consumption per capita or 'pharmaceutical consumption per capita' as targets. The development of computers has allowed the same amount of useful work to be done with less energy. Is it bad that, instead of shipping physical books, we now transmit bits over cables? When we miniaturize a chip so that it does the same work with 2x less energy, something that happened many times in the 1960-2000s - energy consumption maybe 'declines', despite nothing bad happening.

real purchasing power among people who earn a salary

I'm not sure what statistic you're referring to - 'real' means inflation adjusted, generally, and googling I only found this, which seems to go up. And the percent of the population that earns a salary only decreases with time bc aging, so changes in composition can't be the reason.

fentanyl addiction rates, US homeless population

I agree these have risen and are bad! Homelessness has doubled since 1990. But they are sort of ... qualitative issues for the majority of people, not quantitative ones. Some people have it very bad, the majority of people still have it fine. What I'm discussing is more material / economic / functional declines for everyone.

oil discoveries

I don't think this is true, really. The shale oil boom in the 2010s helped make the US a net oil exporter.

increased rate of adverse weather events due to climate change

This doesn't really fit with the original topic of human-caused decline, and I'm pretty suspicious of its truth anyway. Maybe there are more of some events in some areas and less in others. However that actually means 'genuinely uncertain', not 'secretly believes it's totally false and is JAQing', it really could go either way.

rise of a surveillance state

The US government is incredibly respectful of privacy, tbh. There's no technical reason your computer doesn't send all your keystrokes to the Anti-Crime Division or whatever, but we don't! We have all sorts of anti-privacy laws that are mostly respected. Most of the threats to privacy are private actors who sell data to other actors. Getting cancelled from your job for a political heresy by entirely private actors isn't great, but that's not a 'surveillance state', it's basically the default during all of human history.

US military corruption

I am entirely unfamiliar with this topic, but find it plausible corruption isn't much worse than it was in the past. Especially the 'this is just the way we do business' kind of 'corruption'. Analogous to political machines. Again, entirely unfamiliar.

US manufacturing capacity

Manufacturing output has plateaued, not declined (note I'm not confident that graph means what I think it does). Manufacturing employment has declined, obviously - but this is just because our service jobs are more useful than manufacturing jobs. There's a reason manufacturing employees in Bangkok or Shanghai earn les than coders or financial analysts in America, and it's not because we're tricking them - the exchange rates between us and them are set by their demand for our products, compared to our demand for theirs. Foreign countries with a lot of manufacturing want to participate in & purchase our services enough that they're willing to price their labor at a lot lower than ours, per capita! We're just specializing in more complicated and capital and IQ intensive work. China wishes they had our service jobs and we had their manufacturing jobs! They'd swap in an instant. As would Thailand, Mexico, and Niger.

US infrastructure maintenance

Not informed. This might refer to two things: One, the 'our infrastructure is old and not being upgraded quickly enough' thing, which I think is arguably true but I'm not sure it's that important, or that it was that much better in the past.

The other is (probably not what you meant but) that building and bridge collapses are in the news every so often, and twitter RWers quote tweet these with 'AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS DESTROYING OUR SOCIETY'. I assume that isn't your argument, but 1970s and 1920s newspapers also had lurid details of infrastructure collapses at arguably higher rates.

So of your points, I agreed with partially 'rates of family formation' and entirely agree with 'homeless/fentanyl', and wasn't informed on a few more. If my understandings are correct, I think this supports my point, mostly - things aren't really getting worse on the whole. Like, nations are big, you'd expect a few things to get worse on the net no matter what, alongside many other improvements.

It's reasonable to replace this with two factors: fertility rate, and % of children living with two parents. The current fertility rate is .001 off from the rate of 1980! I think a lot of that is immigrants having higher birth rates and arbitrary luck that 1980 happened to be the lowest fertility of that era

If you're going to measure the fertility rate like that then you need to start looking at individual populations and demographics as well. The "immigrants having higher birth rates" part is the real killer - I think that is actually masking a drop in fertility and family formation among the original population, and the fecundity advantage of immigrants disappears within a generation or two. You've actually just pointed out that the problem is even worse than it appears, because the numbers are being artificially inflated by recent immigrants. Remove them from the equation and look at the original population and their descendants, and it becomes clear that something is wrong. Importing populations high in fertility but low in human capital and mean IQ (the kind of mean that matters for regression) and claiming that this fixes the problem is like saying that you don't have a debt problem because you can borrow more money to cover the existing debts.

Is it bad that, instead of shipping physical books, we now transmit bits over cables?

While some of these changes are due to increased efficiency I think that a lot of it represents a real decrease in productive work being done - outsourcing is something I view as largely bad for the nation engaging in it and that would also have shown up in these figures. Some of the factors driving these changes are absolutely good, but some of them are very much not.

I'm not sure what statistic you're referring to - 'real' means inflation adjusted, generally, and googling I only found this, which seems to go up

I actually made a mistake - I meant Americans who earn a wage rather than a salary, so my fault here. I also think that inflation statistics are massaged in order to mask this decline and make it less obvious when compared with the methods used in previous decades, and if you calculate inflation using historical metrics the decline becomes a lot starker.

Homelessness has doubled since 1990. But they are sort of ... qualitative issues for the majority of people, not quantitative ones. Some people have it very bad, the majority of people still have it fine. What I'm discussing is more material / economic / functional declines for everyone.

There are tent cities forming around multiple state capitals, and the homeless population is causing large problems in San Francisco and other cities. The amount of homeless people doubling in 30 years isn't a warning of decline or a signal - it IS decline. Those homeless people obviously have a lower QOL than they did before (and they are probably using less energy too), and they also decrease the QOL for the people near them. It doesn't technically hurt everyone (the people on Martha's Vineyard won't give a shit) but it very clearly represents material decline.

I don't think this is true, really. The shale oil boom in the 2010s helped make the US a net oil exporter.

It doesn't matter what you think here because you are wrong - oil discoveries are down and have been continuing to decline. The shale oil boom is in my view a temporary mirage, but that is immaterial here considering they don't represent new discoveries. Shale oil fields have been known about for some time, but were largely considered uneconomical to extract. As a source of oil, they have a much lower EROEI than conventional light sweet crude, and this creates an energy tax on the rest of society. Dipping into the crumbs at the bottom of the oil barrel is not a sign of a recovery!

This doesn't really fit with the original topic of human-caused decline, and I'm pretty suspicious of its truth anyway.

I think climate change is a real, serious issue and one that is directly caused by human activity - we are already starting to feel the effects of it, and those impacts will continue to get worse over time. But actually litigating this would be a massive undertaking beyond the scope of this comment.

The US government is incredibly respectful of privacy, tbh.

You should go back and read the Edward Snowden disclosures. The US government is absolutely not respectful of privacy and there are ultimately no protections against oversight-free surveillance. They were willing to violate the privacy of Donald Trump during crossfire hurricane despite having explicit knowledge that there was no real Russian collusion, and pass on private details to the political campaign of his opponent. People being cancelled for heresy is also bad and a sign of decline (failing power structure desperately tries to remove critics to strengthen popular perception) but that's a bit more vague and hypothetical than something like declining oil discovery rates.

I am entirely unfamiliar with this topic, but find it plausible corruption isn't much worse than it was in the past.

I don't find that plausible at all, but statistics on this are hard to come by. I have seen a lot of news stories about corruption in federal procurement contracts (million dollar bins etc) and there have been multiple expensive boondoggles which have not resulted in any actual military advantage - I think the F-35 has been an incredibly expensive loser, for instance, but I also admit that I can't really prove that objectively without throwing them into combat with equivalents from the Russian/Chinese military.

Manufacturing output has plateaued, not declined (note I'm not confident that graph means what I think it does).

I also have my doubts about that data but I cannot see exactly how it is generated and if there are any nasty tricks that obscure the kind of decline in capacity that I'm talking about here. More importantly, total output isn't what I was talking about - there are severe bottlenecks in multiple important manufacturing industries (defence, shipbuilding etc) and supply-chain requirements. A lot of chips and other vital components are manufactured in China, to the point that it is actually a serious military issue and there are frequent prosecutions of people who sell Chinese-manufactured gear to the military.

But more importantly, what I said there was capacity. I'll switch to a specific category now - shipbuilding. Right now the US shipbuilding industry has undergone a catastrophic decline, to the point that China has roughly 232 times the shipbuilding capacity of the USA according to the navy. There's more to manufacturing than just GDP output - the knowledge-base, supporting industries, infrastructure etc all take time to build up (or mothball), and if there's any kind of crisis that impacts international trade then those differences will become extremely relevant.

Not informed. This might refer to two things: One, the 'our infrastructure is old and not being upgraded quickly enough' thing, which I think is arguably true but I'm not sure it's that important, or that it was that much better in the past.

Transportation, clean potable water supply, reliable electricity - and I'm talking largely about the flyover states. There are real, serious problems in the American heartlands that aren't just "black women made this bridge that then fell down". The statistics for rural life in America show clear and undeniable signs of decline in a huge variety of ways.

Like, nations are big, you'd expect a few things to get worse on the net no matter what, alongside many other improvements.

My position is that the US is declining on the whole, and this is obscured by financial chicanery and the uneven distribution of the decline. Some areas are prospering, and combined with massaged financial statistics the overall decline is obscured and hidden - but it shows up in a few places if you know where to look.