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What's your philosophy on spending on hobby equipment? Let that be better kitchen equipment, better sports gear, better gaming gear, whatever.

I strongly lean towards the "A bad carpenter blames his tools" and "The magic is in the artist's hand not the paintbrush" camp and think that when partaking in a hobby the "right" way to do things is to practice frugality in the initial stages and upgrade the equipment as you grow out not in.

Some examples of this in practice;

  1. I used a rackety old bicycle I bought used for years until I built up enough fitness where the cycle was the limiting factor and not my legs. Then I bought a name-branded bike and was instantly much faster. (For aspiring cyclists, yes it actually takes years.)
  2. Used shitty grocery store knives until I developed enough knife skills to justify owning a Victorinox Fibrox. Still nowhere near justifying one of those Japanese blades.
  3. Bought a good gaming setup with a good GPU, Mouse, and 120Hz monitor after years of gaming on a shitty setup.

However, I'm seeing the holes in this line of thought as I am in a place now where I can just afford the "good" equipment to start off with. There exists no Frugality or Thriftiness God who will look down on me for breaking the old ways, if anything, I might be somewhat of an extremist in that regard.

But it feels "wrong". One of the things that helps me sleep easier at night is that I live this way. But why? Any arbitrary things helping you sleep well at night? Or is it just a made up struggle?

Bought a good gaming setup with a good GPU, Mouse, and 120Hz monitor after years of gaming on a shitty setup.

That's about my only expensive hobby (well, expensive by Third World standards), and I never bought all that stuff with the expectation it would significantly improve my in-game performance, just that it would be nice to have, and fuck it, I'm an adult with no dependents, I can buy it if I want to. Someone like Ninja or Landmark playing on a 2016 toaster could probably spank my ass with no end of high end gear, but I still like it when I remember, yeah, spending a ridiculous sum on my pc makes things look fucking amazing.

That's not to say that I'm not frugal in general (though I have a great deal more need to be, being the poor son of well-off parents, and I know how hard my dad works for his money so I don't even try and mooch off him anymore, I just feel too ashamed about it)

Actually, that's the closest I have to an irrational aversion to spending, my dad could spend a great deal more and not really care, but barring things I would be very hard pressed to afford myself, like a car or house, I rarely can bring myself to ask him to buy me stuff these days.

In your case, I would suggest having either an explicit or implicit carve out from your monthly income you consider "luxury" expenses, and when it's filled, you tell yourself you've planned for this and won't miss it. You get to tell your brain you're being disciplined, while still enjoying yourself, because presumably you're making enough money that discretionary spending isn't something that is a real financial concern.

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