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Wellness Wednesday for September 20, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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They say “the worst thing she can say is no” but I asked a woman who I’m sorta friends with on a date via text and she read the message but hasn’t responded for 11 days and that’s so much worse than “no.”

I’m pretty sure I didn’t do anything wrong but I guess I just want feedback on this message as a sanity check.

Hi [name]

I just want to say that I think you're really kind and intelligent and interesting and pretty and I'd like to go on a date with you some time if you're interested.

If not, it's not a big deal, we can pretend this didn't happen and keep being friends lol

look on the bright side, she's gonna go through the same thing when you ignore her in a year after you've gotten jacked as fuck from the motivation this rejection brought you. (speaking from personal experience)

when you ignore her in a year

This part never usually pans out lol.

Speaking as a fellow who did the exact same thing of getting jacked out of sheer spite (at least in the early stages).

This part never usually pans out lol.

Oh it did for me, I still remember her reaction when she saw me for the first time in like 6 months: * looks at me, does a double take, eyes widen, face becomes fully red, furtive looks the whole evening *. I actually feel a little bit guilty about just how good revenge feels.

Unless you were fat or physically grotesque before (hard to believe if you got jacked in six months) I can’t see this changing much. Women can be superficial, of course, but the gap between a handsome man with an average body and a handsome man with a good body usually isn’t enough to go from ‘rejection’ to this, at least not in my experience. Physical features women find attractive are (in order of importance) face (provided average height or above), height, broad shoulders. The gym helps with 0/3 (weight loss can do it, if a man is fat enough that it shows in the face, but I presume we’re not talking about that here).

Ah, in my case it was extreme fat loss, yeah, I didn't really gain muscle, just revealed what was there. People who haven't seen me in a while tell me I got jacked out of a misunderstanding of where muscle comes from.