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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 2, 2023

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What legacy does it leave of your existence?

Is leaving a legacy of your existence your ultimate goal in life? Can you give me some reason why it should be mine? After all, I certainly won't be here to know about it.

Is leaving a legacy of your existence your ultimate goal in life?

To the extent there is any coherent goal that one can pursue, leaving behind some legacy of your own to influence future generations is pretty much the only thing any organism can do that matters.

That is how 'life' sustains itself. It's pretty much the only reason anything you like about your life even exists. So however you choose to live your life (unless it is constant agony, I suppose), be thankful that there were people before you who cared about what happened in the future.

Can you give me some reason why it should be mine?

No!

But if you pursue goals that do not leave legacies, and I pursue goals that DO leave legacies, only one of our value systems/biological heritage is likely to propogate into the future and have impact on how that future unfolds.

Which is to say, your kind get out-competed in the natural selection race, and so its going to be a future dominated by legacy-leavers who will be very thankful that all their ancestors were legacy-leavers.

I'm thankful my ancestors were legacy-leavers, so it isn't particularly strange to me that I should want to leave a legacy.

If that isn't enough of a reason, I won't attempt any further to change your mind, and we have no quarrel anyway. Just don't interfere with other people who want to leave legacies!

Your argument is circular: you've decided that propagation of genes matters so by your definition it's "the only thing that matters".

That's not quite what I'm saying.

Propagation of genes matters if there is to be any future where intelligent life exists at all.

I don't begrudge the nihilists who don't think there's anything 'special' about intelligent life or humans in particular, and who think that the universe is utterly apathetic to our continued existence.

However, I doubt that they can have any real certainty in that regard.

I think it is preferable to have someone (intelligent and conscious) around to experience the future and see where it's going, than to not have anyone around at all. So in order to ensure that there is someone around, I can either figure out how to live forever, or do things that will help ensure that intelligent life exists in the future.

One of the most succinct explanations for why you might want to keep plugging along in spite of it all, was delivered by Lex Fucking Luthor in the Justice League Animated Series.

"Objectively speaking, nothing matters! So go forth and do stuff that matters... to you."

My other favored response to people who say "why bother" is Asimov's The Last Question.