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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
Zero threat to their continued existence? Besides occasional raids like the one we’ve seen I’m not even sure how to model cheap drone tech and what it could do to Israel with a neighboring populace that wants to kill all of you.
The entirety of Israel existence depends on them finding new technological solutions to new warfare options. If they fail once it’s game over.
You can say that about any country in the drone age, or even the nuclear age, or even just the high-flying bomber age. Hamas was able to find a zero-day vulnerability in Israel’s defenses which led to 1200 deaths at around 0.01% of their population (which has a TFR of around 3.0). There is no risk at all to their continued existence from this attack.
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Zero threat to their continued existence? Besides occasional raids like the one we’ve seen I’m not even sure how to model cheap drone tech and what it could do to Israel with a neighboring populace that wants to kill all of you.
The entirety of Israel existence depends on them finding new technological solutions to new warfare options. If they fail once it’s game over.
You can say that about any country in the drone age, or even the nuclear age, or even just the high-flying bomber age. Hamas was able to find a zero-day vulnerability in Israel’s defenses which led to 1200 deaths at around 0.01% of their population (which has a TFR of around 3.0). There is no risk at all to their continued existence from this attack.
Yes you can. But France doesn’t declare its purpose to murder Germans when presented with the opportunity.
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