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Trump got hit by two gag orders from two different judges. The precedent in this area of law is severely underdeveloped, both because so few defendants get gagged, and of those who do very few have the resources or energy to mount an appeal. Jacob Sullum writes a great overview of the issue:

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, who is presiding over Donald Trump's trial on federal charges related to his attempted reversal of Joe Biden's 2020 election victory, yesterday imposed a gag order that bars the former president from "publicly targeting" witnesses, prosecutors, or court personnel. Trump lawyer John Lauro vigorously opposed the order on First Amendment grounds, saying it would stop his client from "speak[ing] truth to oppression." While that characterization exaggerates the order's impact, constraining the speech of a criminal defendant, especially one who is in the midst of a presidential campaign, does raise largely unsettled constitutional issues.

Chutkan's order was provoked by Trump's habit of vilifying anyone who crosses him, including Special Counsel Jack Smith ("deranged"), the prosecutors he oversees (a "team of thugs"), and Chutkan herself (a "highly partisan" and "biased, Trump Hating Judge"). "IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I'M COMING AFTER YOU!" Trump wrote on Truth Social after his indictment in this case. The next day, The New York Times notes, "a Texas woman left a voice mail message for Judge Chutkan, saying, 'If Trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you, so tread lightly.'"

So to avoid the common pitfalls in discussions like this, set aside Trump for a moment. Should judges have any authority to impose gag orders? If so, what limits should be in place? After working out the questions in theory, how does your position apply to Trump?

I think gag orders can be appropriate in a very limited set of circumstances. For example let's say a newspaper owner is charged with murder in a small town. He should always have the absolute and unrestricted right to discuss the allegations against him and mount a defense in public. There are some areas where it starts to get cloudy for me, like for example if he hires an investigator (legal & appropriate) to dig into the history of the main witness against him (legal & appropriate) and he gets his hands on her diary (potentially legal & potentially appropriate). He then spends the lead-up to the murder trial publishing massive coverage the lurid details of all her sex kinks and fantasies, which isn't implicated in the murder charges. To me this starts to look like witness tampering/intimidation, where the defendant is humiliating a witness with the intent to discourage her from giving testimony.

So my answer is here would be yes, judges can impose gag orders but they should be extremely narrow. The operating principle should be to always allow defendants to discuss the direct charges against them, including the ability to discredit witness credibility. There's a blurry line between when someone is discrediting a witness on relevant matters, and when they're just trying to make their life hell to discourage them from testifying. An example of this blurry line is what happened to SBF, where his pretrial release was revoked in part because he leaked Caroline Ellison's diary to the NYT and because he seemed to have been coordinating testimony with FTX's general counsel.

So with that out of the way, how does it apply to Trump? Judge Chutkan's order restricts him from making statements that "target" the prosecutor, court staff, and "reasonably foreseeable witnesses or the substance of their testimony". Practically speaking, it goes without saying that it's a terrible idea to talk shit about the court or prosecutor while your case(s) is pending. There are some obvious areas where Trump's commentary is inane and irrelevant, like posting a photo of a judge's law clerk and claiming she's "Schumer's girlfriend", or posting about the prosecutor's family members. Discrediting witnesses is harder to draw a clean line on, because again there's a gradient between discrediting and intimidating. I think Trump should have the absolute and unrestricted right to discuss any of his charges and discredit any evidence and witnesses against him. While I disagree with that part of the ruling, I don't know how I would rephrase that clause, and so my reaction is that in these close cases we should default to allowing speech rather than restricting it.

Edit: @guajalote changed my mind on the propriety of Judge Engoron's order prohibiting "personal attacks on my members of my court staff". I agree that criticizing government officials should always be protected, even if the speech is targeting irrelevant or uninvolved individuals. A narrower order prohibiting incitement would've been more appropriate.

I'm not sure why it's important to discredit a witness in the public eye, instead of at trial where you're allowed to say all those things directly to the judge and jury.

Especially in light of the negative externalities to the system itself, ie if we allow defendants to make witnesses and judges and prosecutors and jurors lives a living nightmare right up until the line of 'definitely undeniably direct tampering', then that sets a precedent where no sane person wants to fill any of those roles, and the process of justice is impeded.

Also, I agree that a fairly narrow range of things that someone might say about their trial should qualify as tampering/intimidation. However, defendants have a strong motive to preferentially say those things, and therefore we should a priori expect a lot of the things they would say to fall into that category, and therefore expect proper gag orders to cover a lot of their actual intended speech.

Say you are a real estate developer trying to sell condos in your building. Girl who you had a drunken hook up texted you the next day saying how much fun she had with you last night.

You ignore her text. 2 weeks later she claims rape. It’s in the newspaper. Suddenly your name is tarnished. Everyone in town now views your condo building as feeding money into your pocket. Sales slump.

Now do you see why this hypothetical real estate developer would have a reason to hit back in the media? He’s being significantly punished (maybe leading to bankruptcy) without ever being found guilty in the court of law.

Of course Trump has motivations to hit hard against the judge and prosecuting attorney. The more partisan they appear the more it makes him look better and get the marginal voter.

Your hypothetical didn't actually mention anything about a court case in which a judge could issue a gag order... I assume the idea is supposed to be that the court case is underway at the same time it's in the newspapers, and the protagonist will eventually be found innocent, but only after their reputation has taken a hit, and the reputational hit either won't be reversed by alter being found innocent, or too much financial damage will already have been done by then?

I guess what I would say is that 1. that sees like a really narrow case (most cases don't go to newspapers while they're happening, most prospective buyers probably aren't reading the local newspaper or googling your name, most rape accusations don't go to trial anyway, there has to be a big financial thing happening in between the time of the newspaper article and the time of the not-guilty verdict, etc), which doesn't make it irrelevant but means it should have less influence over how we design policy than the median case, and 2. I would hope a judge in that case wouldn't issue a blanket gag order, it seems like you could say a lot to protect your reputation without crossing the line on a conservative gag order, and as OP states gag orders are really quite rare anyway, and 3. yeah, there may have to be some trade-offs between corner-cases like this and making the system work in the median case.

That said, yeah, I take your point that sometimes you want to defend yourself in the court of public opinion at the same time you are defending yourself in actual court, and this creates a genuine conflict of interests between protecting the court proceedings and protecting normal speech-based liberty.

I think my intuition on this mostly falls on the side of 'being a defendant in a trial sucks in a lot of ways, especially if they're keeping you in jail during the trial or crippling your family with charges related to getting out on bond, so this isn't an extraordinary new type of burden compared to all the other ones. I'm open to the idea that we should reform the system to make it less damaging to defendants who have not been convicted yet, but if we are deciding to care about that then these super-rich and powerful guys worrying about their reputations are way down on my list under a lot of other defendants who need the help more urgently.'

I am not against reforming the system and limiting punishment by process. Things like releasing mugshots do damage people so I would have no problem with limiting releases if a process isn’t followed. Maybe you need a grand jury to review the evidence and declare something like the accused crime represents a significant threat to society before trial.

In the case of Trump it does seem reasonable that the process itself could harm his election chances, even moreso if he wasn’t Trump who doesn’t mind breaking norms and speaking out. He has a rational argument that the process harms his ability to run for office so I believe he meets your standard.