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Israel-Gaza Megathread #2

This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.

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Too much blood has been spilled. Anything short of full liberation of Ukraine will mean the end of Zelensky (and I don't mean only political). And Putin has to deliver substantial victory to justify the economic pain.

For Zelensky to sit on the table means he has to be losing and hard. But in that case why bother for Putin?

But in that case why bother for Putin?

So, the whole Ukraine, all the way to Poland? Not even a puppet rump state?

There will be a puppet state ofc. More like - if Zelensky is ready to sit on the table for negotiations the unconditional surrender is not far away.