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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 6, 2023

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But I'll say one more thing, less directed to you than to all of the Mottezians who just loooove to spend all their time all day thinking about how much the left is full of pedophiles who can't wait to start molesting kids:

I don't know man. It seems like you aren't responding to what people are actually posting.

I tried to steelman HP0 talking about how the left of the 1970s did sometimes celebrate pedophilia. But I explicitly said that the modern left does not.

You ignored the modern part, and tried to defend the 1970s left with a "few bad apples" and "both sides" argument that as @PierreMenard has pointed out doesn't bear weight.

Why not just admit that, yeah, some 1970s leftist intellectuals believed it was sophisticated and cool to have sex with teenagers? Unlike Catholic priests or whatever, they weren't flawed sinners who slipped up. They thought what they were doing was a Good Thing. This is a legit difference between the left and the right at the time.

None of this makes HP0 less vile, it doesn't make him right about anything, and it doesn't really have much of an impact on the modern culture war except by insinuation. But the limited point still stands.

You ignored the modern part, and tried to defend the 1970s left

I'm not really interested in arguing about the 1970s left without connection to the modern left, tbh, I simply have little interest in the subject. But look at the timestamps and you'll see that your caveat of

Furthermore, I am not talking about the modern-left

Came after the post you just replied to.

Just to add another perspective (also I usually align closer with jeroboam than you, but I hope I have displayed enough neutrality in prior conversation with you that you won't consider this solely motivated reasoning): It seemed obvious to me that jeroboam was only saying that the left of yesteryear had some fascination with pedophiles. So your defensive replies looked like denial at best and gaslighting at worst. I understand what you meant now, but that was my initial impression.