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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 20, 2023

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They’re not dumping anything. They’re saying, if you want ‘em, take ‘em. Why is that nefarious? Clearly gazans hate jews even more than they hate the west, so there is no hypocrisy. And western zoomers are just as deluded as western elites, when it comes to the ease of assimilating millions of muslims.

Those people believe that any immigrants is an asset. They also criticize israel for its cruel treatment and ‘apartheid’ towards them, as if the concept of just being nice had never entered an israeli’s mind. It’s completely fair for israelis to call their bluff. Only it’s not a bluff, because once the assimilation fails, the same people will say it’s because the EU was cruel to them.

Israel made us do it. The boomers made us do it. The brussels burocrats made us do it. The elites made us do it. Then why are the people all around me spouting the same naive view? They have not been forced. No, it’s us, our family, friends, girlfriends and neighbours, it’s always been us.

So either we support Israel genociding Gaza and stealing the land or we have to accept Gazans into the west so Israel can steal the lend, those are our only options?

With allies like these, who needs enemies.

No of course not. As a random european country you just say "no thank you" and wash your hands of the matter. Where's the "being a bad ally" part? People and countries are responsible for their own decisions.

The part where we station 2 aircraft carriers to prevent Iran or another Arab power from responding to Israel or the part where we are now going to give Israel another 15 billion

Yeah, that's on you, not the Israelis.

If only Americans had laws like the English in the 13th century to prevent certain moneyed interests from accumulating excessive political power.

Things are changing tho, the wheel of history is as usual turning, and the unexplainable, unfathomable ugliness of antisemitism is once again rearing its head.

It should all work out this time around tho.

If only people on TheMotte spoke clearly, and said what they meant, this place might be better. We even might get to talk to one another without all the smug hinting in the world.

Well you seem to think that it's only up to the American people to keep offering billions of dollars in tribute to Israel, but what about the Israelis?

It may do a little bit to combat vicious stereotypes to have the Israeli state refuse to engage in a one-sided relationship with the US.

For example, they could issue a statement:

We thereby and going forward refuse all financial aid from the United States as we would never be able to repay the American people in kind.

We also politely decline the intervention of American forces in our ongoing border conflict with the state of Palestine, as the Israeli people is strong enough on its own to handle any and all foreign threats to its sovereignty without a complex network of intelligence agents, sex traffickers and international financiers to lobby, blackmail, manipulate foreign governments and orchestrate the foreign policies of our so-called 'allies'.

The Israelis care more about their own security than they do about proving paranoid rightists and anti-colonial leftists wrong, as they well should. If the standards of being a good ally include refusing aid, Israel still isn't a uniquely bad ally. Insisting they don't take the money or else they're big meanies is ludicrous.

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