site banner
PaperclipPerfector  1yr ago (text post)   5072 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for December 8, 2023

Be advised: this thread is not for serious in-depth discussion of weighty topics (we have a link for that), this thread is not for anything Culture War related. This thread is for Fun. You got jokes? Share 'em. You got silly questions? Ask 'em.

2
Top Bottom Old Controversial Comments
Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

which I now see cropping up everywhere

I haven't noticed it -- do you have an example?

"Simple, not complex, no extra characters, restrained, not saturated"

Maybe it has trouble with negatives? I wonder if it would respond to directions about specific color palettes (yellow ochre, Paynes grey, cadmium red?), where to place the focal point, or name dropping Rembrandt?

I haven't noticed it -- do you have an example?

Sure. Here are a some examples from a blog that was posted to the slatestarcodex subreddit.

1, 2, 3

Once you recognize the "style" you see it everywhere. The main thing is that they are just way too busy.

I invite you to show me anything that makes all these images I've generated samey.

You're prompting it wrong.

/images/17020575509717166.webp

/images/17020575514449952.webp

/images/1702057552012355.webp

Common link is they are all have far too many unnecessary elements that detract from the image. I will grant that only image #2 looks like a 100% match for the Dall-E 3 archetype.

What do you mean by "unnecessary things"?

They're precisely what I asked for, within the limits of my prompting and the model. Without knowing the prompts, I have no idea what you think they're missing.

At the very least the last one is a minimal brutalist logo for a PMC, I can hardly imagine what could be less so.

Maybe you just don't have an eye for this stuff. It seems really obvious to me how these images are cluttered.

Maybe you're not explaining yourself very well.

1 - looks video game inspired, I would expect it to have about that level of detail, it makes sense for the genera. It looks like it's trying to put in slums and high-rises by the explosion, and it seems likely the prompt asked for both slums and high-rises. In which case, I can't think of a less cluttered way to show them.

2 - The monitors are presumably part of the prompt. There seems to be a bit of office chair and some extra table legs and some lights intersecting on the ceiling back there, which, yeah, probably would be better left out.

3 - Do you mean you don't like the jagged shapes breaking up the main image? That's clearly an intentional stylistic choice

looks video game inspired

Indeed. For once, my Arma clan didn't commit a war crime, they just happened to witness one.

The monitors are presumably part of the prompt

The prompt asked for a cyborg with a very particular set of features in a futuristic office. No chairs specifically, but that's hardly unheard of in an office. The fact that it got the Great Wave correct on his face is enough to blow me away compared to previous models, which would have just given him swamp ass.

Do you mean you don't like the jagged shapes breaking up the main image? That's clearly an intentional stylistic choice

It's the outcome of asking for brutalism in a minimalist vector art logo for a fictional private military company. If you don't add such stylistic markers, it defaults to the kind of slop you see on police officers trying to be hard men, in other words the Punisher skull emblem. But it can obviously do better and different if you ask.

What is this place?

This website is a place for people who want to move past shady thinking and test their ideas in a court of people who don't all share the same biases. Our goal is to optimize for light, not heat; this is a group effort, and all commentators are asked to do their part.

The weekly Culture War threads host the most controversial topics and are the most visible aspect of The Motte. However, many other topics are appropriate here. We encourage people to post anything related to science, politics, or philosophy; if in doubt, post!

Check out The Vault for an archive of old quality posts. You are encouraged to crosspost these elsewhere.


Why are you called The Motte?

A motte is a stone keep on a raised earthwork common in early medieval fortifications. More pertinently, it's an element in a rhetorical move called a "Motte-and-Bailey", originally identified by philosopher Nicholas Shackel. It describes the tendency in discourse for people to move from a controversial but high value claim to a defensible but less exciting one upon any resistance to the former. He likens this to the medieval fortification, where a desirable land (the bailey) is abandoned when in danger for the more easily defended motte. In Shackel's words, "The Motte represents the defensible but undesired propositions to which one retreats when hard pressed."

On The Motte, always attempt to remain inside your defensible territory, even if you are not being pressed.


New post guidelines

If you're posting something that isn't related to the culture war, we encourage you to post a thread for it. A submission statement is highly appreciated, but isn't necessary for text posts or links to largely-text posts such as blogs or news articles; if we're unsure of the value of your post, we might remove it until you add a submission statement. A submission statement is required for non-text sources (videos, podcasts, images).

Culture war posts go in the culture war thread; all links must either include a submission statement or significant commentary. Bare links without those will be removed.

If in doubt, please post it!


Rules


Recommended Posts And Communities

Recommended Realtime Chats