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While the technological achievement of Sora is highly impressive, the faux Japanese texts within the generated Tokyo scenes were clearly fake. I can read Japanese hiragana, katakana and also a fair amount of Chinese characters, and most of the pseudo-Japanese text was nothing but garbled nonsense mixed in with a few legitimate characters, some of which were mirrored or missing strokes. This fits a general pattern I've noticed in many AI-generated images that happen to contain passages of text, which is almost always made-up gibberish with no basis in reality, as though the AI is treating it as a mere pattern to imitate.
Interestingly, the same thing happens to text in (lucid) dreams.
Back when DallE2 was the cutting edge, somebody suggested that the images being produced might suggest that to the Extent DallE has any 'internal experience' it probably feels roughly like the equivalent to a lucid dream to it.
Probably not true but it sticks in my head nonetheless.
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To be fair, I believe this is standard practice in the film industry for at least some applications, and AI may just be following conventions from its training data.
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