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"The following story is fictional and does not depict any actual person or event."
Does placing a disclaimer before a show give you unlimited ability to then defame a person? Yes I am talking about Law and Order. And specifically the episode that aired last night “Facade”. Airing March 21, 2024.
The first 45 minutes or so fairly accurately portray the case of Daniel Perry who using a chokehold caused the death of Jordan Neely a homeless man who frightened passengers on a NYC subway.
Spoilers now so watch the episode or just read. The last 15 minutes show that he’s every leftist fantasy of what a white male really is. Turns out while doing the chokehold he said “blood and dirt” an obvious reference to Nazis and “blood and soil”. Furthermore the gym he goes to is ran by an undercover cop investigating white supremacists. He’s actually a full fledged Nazi collecting weapons to plan another very violent January 6. Non of this can be presented at trial because the white supremacists investigation is more important than convicting him at trial of murder.
Where am I going with this? This feels like defamation to me. There is no evidence that the real life Daniel Perry has any ties to actual Nazis.
I completely think art needs to have an ability to show real events. And I liked Law and Order back in the day. But there is a real life Daniel Perry and if I loosely followed the news I would 100% know the episode is referring to him. They followed the facts in the case accurately for 45 min. The last 15 min he is a terrorist Nazi. I would assume the last 15 min are referencing something in his background and he has some ties to real Nazis.
Without ruining the entire genre and making it impossible to do this feels like defamation to me. A midtwit would be under the impression it’s about him and he’s a real Nazi. But the real Daniel Perry is not a Nazi.
This leads to two questions for me. The lawyers can comment on the actual legal line here. The non-lawyers can discuss whether he’s damaged any differentially than if CNN just ran a bunch of made up stuff he was a Nazi. He’s a real private person and I think I can fairly say a lot of people would watch the episode and assume he has real Nazi ties.
There is one more element of art depicting reality. The FBI has instigated and put under covers in against normie Republicans and Pro-Life people on the grounds they are a national security threat but they probably aren’t in those cases full fledged terrorist.
If I were Daniel Perry I would try to sue. I feel like his reputation was damaged and he has real damages but not a lawyer to know the legal lines and I would assume NBC has lawyers but I still feel like he has a real reputational damage. Plus he’s going on trial and a juror who saw the episode would now think he has undisclosed nazi ties.
There is probably some who is the bad person thing here. In their fictional depictions from episodes 20 years ago I probably didn’t care when they added some negative stuff to a black character etc. But now that white people are bad I get upset when they add he was a Nazi about to commit 1/6 or 9/11 to their fictional portrayal of real events.
In summary his obvious fictional portrayal of his actions added a whole he’s a real Nazi plot line but they began the episode with a disclaimer it’s fictional.
Edit: I would be curious if anyone else watched the episode. Or if everyone is assuming I am appropriately representing the episode as they portrayed him as a “full-fledged nazi with a desire to kill black people” as accurate. And that exaggeration is expected now.
The thing I find most interesting about that is the desire to generate this framing of a villainous white-vengeance seeker on the subways. It seems to me that this is a way of both coping with the observed reality being inconsistent with the underlying beliefs of the vagrant-friendly as well as propagandizing to generate the impression that the only thing dangerous on the subways are white people just shooting innocent black bodies. Taking a look at the Wiki for the episode that @The_Nybbler references, it's just comical:
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Ah yes, surely we all remember the good ol' days when white women were just shooting up subways, killing innocent black men for no reason at all, then things were being covered up by the police. Well, I guess I don't remember it, but that's probably because the police were covering it up!
In the modern version, just telling the truth about the case might make quite a few people sympathetic to the "murderer". If the full story is basically that some belligerent vagrant was acting like a lunatic, ranting about how he wasn't afraid to die today, and continued escalating to the point where people felt genuinely threatened, there are probably quite a few people that would be glad to have someone step in and choke that guy out, and if it turns out that the belligerent lunatic got hurt in the process, oh well. Others would feel differently and could certainly articulate an opposing case. But no, that wouldn't suffice, it's important to eliminate any ambiguity about who's the bad guy and who's the victim - Penny didn't just overreact according to some standards, he must have been a racist that wanted to hurt a black guy for no real reason. Importantly, this also conveys the message that if you're ever thinking about reacting against the latest screaming hobo on your train, it's probably because you're a Nazi or something.
I find the whole thing all so tiresome.
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