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Small-Scale Question Sunday for April 7, 2024

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I watched that whole horrible india video

I didn't.

I'm surprised you guys are letting that pure putrid propaganda piece just moulder on the front page like that.

As opposed to... what?

It has a thumbnail of a haunting dead person on it, it makes the front page of themotte look like a gore site. I know you don't care that much, weren't you literally a boogaloo boy?

It has a thumbnail of a haunting dead person on it, it makes the front page of themotte look like a gore site.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen worse. I'm pretty sure ~95% of people here or visiting here has literally paid money to see worse in movies, games, shows, etc.

I know you don't care that much, weren't you literally a boogaloo boy?

..."weren't"? More generally, I have no idea what the chain of logic you're pointing to here is.

I didn't watch the video because I don't find the premise interesting or edifying enough to be worth discussing. The question remains: what's your proposed solution, and why is it better than "don't touch the bait"?

were you not...idk where weren't came from, my bad I guess, some people think it is grammatically correct.. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/532254/is-werent-you-considered-grammatically-correct-because-expanded-it-would

I think it is beneath the dignity of such an august body to have that kind of dreck populating the front page. But maybe it is just my delicate sensibilities. In regards to the boogaloo reference, I just figured your race ideals were in line with the video, maybe I am wrong.

Your grammar is fine. I'm objecting to the use of past-tense; I do not believe our current society is legitimate and think large-scale violent conflict is both likely in the near-term and preferable to other likely scenarios.

I think it is beneath the dignity of such an august body to have that kind of dreck populating the front page.

I think a lot of things that are posted here are beneath the dignity of this "august body". The mods are committed to not imposing their aesthetic standards on the forum, though. This is actually what HlynkaCG got banned for: he found the presence of many objectionable people here too repugnant to tolerate.

In regards to the boogaloo reference, I just figured your race ideals were in line with the video, maybe I am wrong.

You are wrong. I don't endorse HBD, much less whatever you want to call... that whole mess. I've spent a fair amount of time arguing against Kulak in the past, when his extremism was less race-based than it seems to be now, and our views are not converging.

It seems like you want it both ways. You say you don't endorse this kind of thing, but in the same post you say a violent revolution is the best way forward. You do kind of like this sort of thing, anything that brings the revolution closer eh?

It seems like you want it both ways.

No, I just want it my way, which is quite distinct from Kulak's way. I think large scale violence is likely, and preferable to other likely scenarios. That does not mean it is a first-draft pick, but rather that the situation is quite bad and getting worse. There are plausible scenarios by which violence is avoided without too many compromises with straightforward evil; those are obviously preferable. There are also scenarios where compromise with other forms of straightforward evil increases the apparent likelihood of "victory", and yet such scenarios remain unacceptable.

You say you don't endorse this kind of thing, but in the same post you say a violent revolution is the best way forward.

The best way forward is for our society to peacefully transition to more meaningful forms of federalism, for the current trends of ideological, social and cultural sortition to continue to their logical conclusions, and for people possessed of mutually-intolerable values to find a way to leave each other alone.

You do kind of like this sort of thing, anything that brings the revolution closer eh?

With the caveat that I have no precise idea what you mean by "this sort of thing", no, I do not like any of the possible referents at all, and no, not anything that brings "the revolution" closer is good. In fact, most things that bring "the revolution" closer are straightforwardly evil. If we are as unfortunate as we appear to be, "the revolution" will get here in its own good time, despite our efforts to the contrary. We should seek neither to hasten it, nor to unduly forestall it. We should instead attempt to do what is right, and let the cards fall where they may.

Doesn’t that leave room for other options which are 1) preferable to a revolution but 2) not likely?

Not that I’m speaking for FC here. I just think there’s an excluded middle.

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