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KulakRevolt 1mo ago (anarchonomicon.com) 5803 thread views

FILM REVIEW: India the Worst country on Earth

4Chan's First Feature film is also the first Feature length AI Film.

The Conceit? Aside from a few Joke stills, none of the visual film is AI. It is a "Nature Documentary" Narrated by David Attenborough... It is also maybe the most disturbing film ever made, and possibly the most important/impactful film of the decades so far.

Reality is more terrifying than fiction.

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f3zinker Its A/B testing all the way down 1mo ago

Some scattered thoughts as Desi (Haven't visited in almost a decade and don't relate culturally at all, but I have more than a superficial connection through my parents and extended family).

Question: The part about Indian men being the least attractive of the human species kinda stung. I wonder how much of all of this content with filth is just nth-order rollover from arranged marriages being a thing.

Starting to date a (non-Indian) woman made me clean up my act (and surroundings) real quick. Within the span of 2-3 days, I threw away all my dirty clothes, detailed my car, made my room spotless, got my nails, teeth and hair cleaned, all of it.

Does the impetus of not having to atleast follow Rule 2 to ensure the continuation of your bloodline trickle down?

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self_made_human Kai su, teknon? f3zinker 1mo ago · Edited 1mo ago

The part about Indian men being the least attractive of the human species kinda stung.

I'm just built different ✊

Nah, I know plenty of Indian guys, including my best friend, who get what they want. But they're also heavily Westernized and have their shit together. Most Indians, well, I've already insulted their rizz enough, and I can't comment on living standards because I'm a slob myself.

But I guess I'll have to work on that, can't ruin it by having the first girl I bring back home run away screaming, after seeing that my pet cockroach died of starvation.

How much does effort does a succulent take to keep alive again? Or do you think they'd notice if I snuck a few fake plants in there?

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What is this place?

This website is a place for people who want to move past shady thinking and test their ideas in a court of people who don't all share the same biases. Our goal is to optimize for light, not heat; this is a group effort, and all commentators are asked to do their part.

The weekly Culture War threads host the most controversial topics and are the most visible aspect of The Motte. However, many other topics are appropriate here. We encourage people to post anything related to science, politics, or philosophy; if in doubt, post!

Check out The Vault for an archive of old quality posts. You are encouraged to crosspost these elsewhere.

Why are you called The Motte?

A motte is a stone keep on a raised earthwork common in early medieval fortifications. More pertinently, it's an element in a rhetorical move called a "Motte-and-Bailey", originally identified by philosopher Nicholas Shackel. It describes the tendency in discourse for people to move from a controversial but high value claim to a defensible but less exciting one upon any resistance to the former. He likens this to the medieval fortification, where a desirable land (the bailey) is abandoned when in danger for the more easily defended motte. In Shackel's words, "The Motte represents the defensible but undesired propositions to which one retreats when hard pressed."

On The Motte, always attempt to remain inside your defensible territory, even if you are not being pressed.

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