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naraburns  nihil supernum  1yr ago (text post)   2561 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for October 2, 2022

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What are your picks for words/idioms that ought to be retired this year?

My pick is LARP, which used to mean something, but now just means "people I don't like are doing something." When both 4chan and the Azov are "Nazi LARPers;" the phrase just has no meaning, they seem to lack the live action on the one hand and the role playing on the other. I think it also overprivileges nostalgia for an imagined past when people were "real" and ideologies were "serious;" read about them and real successful revolutions and wars were just as filled with dilettantes, misfits, personal drama, and nonsense on their way to changing the world. Failure to recognize this starves our knowledge of history.

Agree on LARP. Without exaggeration, I think the current usage could have been applied to the guys signing the Declaration of Independence - "lol, signing your name on a document doesn't make it a real country bro, stop LARPing".

I could probably pass on pretty much all current uses of "our democracy", which doesn't really seem to have much to do with democracy, but quite a bit to do with the possessive on the front of the phrase.

The acceleration of the use of "denier" for "someone who disagrees with me" has rendered it all but useless. Maybe it was always just as useless, or at least just as pointlessly pejorative, but it didn't seem quite as fully devoid of meaning until I saw people slapping it on "election deniers".

Of course, the weight of "denier" comes from "Holocaust denier". Then recently people started using "climate change denier" and also "election denier", "vaccine denier" etc. The association with Holocaust denial also makes it easier to argue that these other types of denials should similarly become illegal.

Muh wage gap denialism.

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