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anon_
3m ago
Head-to-toe tattoos and piercings signal massive nonconformity with social norms
Not really any more. Just like beards, they used to be non-conformist now they're common enough.
5434a
8m ago
I tried the first two a while ago and tapped out of them pretty fast too.
The only anime series I've finished other than OPM was Welcome To The NHK. It was overly long but it was darkly comical enough to keep me watching to the end.
I'm not a total non-anime watcher but I haven't found much I like outside of the well known feature length films. Even the popular titles like Evangelion and Blade of The Immortal didn't do it for me. Cyberpunk looked okay but turned into a Joss Whedon-alike by the second episode.
Maybe I'll try Uzumaki again when I hit a dry spell (tipped by the same guy who recommended me OPM).
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
14m ago
Japan imports a massive amount of food. This would be pretty dumb for the US to do, considering the massive amount of farmland we have.
(I believe the US is a net food importer by dollars, but not by calories)
hydroacetylene
16m ago
Ok.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
18m ago
either Trump's powerless to implement his vision of reshaping global trade, or he doesn't actually want to, or this IS the agenda as he envisioned it and this is the extent of the impact.
The fun part, all of these are somewhat true
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
21m ago
Americans should mow their own lawns
Eh, f--- that, I've got hay fever.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
22m ago
Because they're not paying the tariffs.
Foreigners don't pay tariffs, they're an import TAX
Interesting thread though, very predictable consequence lol
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
23m ago
I don’t think farming is grunt work
It is, whether you think so or not, which is why historically when people got the chance they fled the farms for horrible factory jobs.
I don't see any reason it would be "innoble" or "beneath human dignity", but it's backbreaking.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
26m ago
AOC at least used to have a large group she spoke for, but if AOC and Nancy Pelosi disagreed, you certainly couldn't say AOC spoke for the left as a whole.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
28m ago
If Trump announced some kind of amnesty for farm workers, that would be MAGA.
No, in fact, MAGA got upset when it seemed he might and Trump backed off. Also note that MAGA was COVID-vaccine-skeptical and Trump was the opposite. That MAGA won't immediately dump Trump if he deviates from what they want doesn't mean MAGA is what Trump says it is.
But the "dissident right" just isn't MAGA in the first place.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
29m ago
Ha. Right.
I’ve got a text document open. I’ve had it open for the last week. The actual contents are still…well, nonexistent. It’s always, always easier to browse the thread or clear out the mod queue than to actually draft the thing.
Let’s see if I can get it together for Monday. If not, I’ll officially relinquish my spot in shame. Sound good?
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
29m ago
the wages for agriculture go up
Americans famously love when the price of consumer goods go up
Also Japan imports 60% of its calories
fmac
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30m ago
we could send them back to Honduras or Oaxaca or wherever to enjoy their pay in a much lower cost of living locale when the season is over
We make up for it by importing infinitely Indian """students""" but in Canada we actually do a great job at this with migrant harvest workers
They're actually super dialled, farmers will compete to hire back the most productive squads of Ecuadorian peach harvesters, etc. They basically noodle around NA/SA following the various harvest seasons.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
33m ago
I feel like this discussion is the missing ingredient to lots of the topics du jour. Let's take the leftward drift of young women- well social conservatism today seems to have, uh, not discussed what other people owe to them, only what they owe to other people.
Eh, I see this discussion a lot. One common line is that what other people (specifically, men, specifically, husbands) owed them -- mostly financial support and physical protection -- is something that they can now either provide for themselves or will be provided by the state, so they no longer need to offer anything.
But in general social conservatism is hierarchical, not reciprocal. Duties are owed to those higher up; parents, church, community. Even those things owed to another person of similar rank or lower down are not owed to them per se, but owed to them because it is ones duty to society to provide it. This is one of the reasons social conservatism is so stifling, especially to the young (who are low in the hierarchy).
fmac
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33m ago
Picking fruit is so Edenic that it’s the first recorded activity of humanity
Brother if this is your imagination of piecework farm labor you should go on YouTube and see what it's like
jkf
36m ago
"don't party on your own supply, and never front on a front" is common knowledge -- sounds like this guy was doing both.
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
37m ago
You've got the point, Tattoos are nothing but a fashion trend. Nothing more, but also nothing less. So
If all the cops, SEALs and BJJ guys have tattoos, what might you surmise about the ones that have resisted the trend and don't have any?
That they don't like tattoos. That's it. We're not morally superior beings.
Anything else is cope. Like most of the stories told about fashion trends.
Except, of course, for the ones I tell about why boat shoes and OCBDs are the proper way for an American man to dress.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
43m ago
against those who want to make it great?
Rhetorical question, if someone kept saying they wanted to be a good runner, but then repeatedly shot themselves in their foot with a gun (this is a fun mixed metaphor) despite insisting they were going to crush a marathon, what would you think about them?
Goodguy
45m ago
Head-to-toe tattoos and piercings signal massive nonconformity with social norms and a willingness to lose out on a large number of job prospects for the sake of personal expression, which naturally gets people's guards up because if someone does not conform to social norms to that extent, you have to evaluate them closely instead of just treating them as a generic person, before figuring out if they are trustworthy or not. It activates a basic "possible danger" heuristic. Massive nonconformity to social norms straddles two ends of the bell curve - it can be a sign of courage and genius, in some cases, but in probably even more cases it is a sign of things like mental illness, antisociality, narcissism, and so on. Sometimes it's both of those ends of the bell curve at the same time (I know that stretches the metaphor really far, but you know what I mean). If you meet some random person covered head-to-toe in tattoos, it is probably more likely that they are a potentially dangerous weirdo than that they are a misunderstood artist.
That said, I find some of the signalling from the right on tattoos to be very funny. Not saying that you're a right-winger, it's just that your post gives me an opportunity to mention this. About 30% of Americans have at least one tattoo. Tattoos are completely mainstream now, what isn't mainstream is full body tattoos or facial tattoos. I often see right-wingers online virtue signalling about women with tattoos. They'll see a photo of a hot woman who has tattoos and start posting stuff like "eww disgusting" or "why did she ruin her body with that". I am convinced that 99% of these guys would fuck the hot woman without any hesitation if they had a chance, tattoos or not. It's just a big virtue signalling LARP to pretend to other guys that they care more about tattoos than they actually do.
Virtue signalling on the right is an under-discussed topic, in my opinion. Highly online right-wingers virtue signal every bit as much as highly online left-wingers do.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
46m ago
Then farmers will get some Made-in-America machine to scoop the tomatoes out of the ground.
If these existed then farmers would already be using them. Unless the argument is "illegals are so cheap no one bothers to invent them" but then why doesn't any other nation without infinite underpaid Guatemalans invent one?
And then if the logic is "american kids will be so expensive to hire it'll incentivise someone to invent a tomato scooping machine" 1) why hasn't anyone else already done this where labor is expensive and 2) is the price of food going up due to large wage increases just being handwaved away as "worth it"
Also my autism demands I point out that tomato's do not grow in the ground (sorry)
I mean we have no information about the stars in the universe too far away to see. We actually know quite a bit about mundane physics, and it’s mundane physics that rule out most travel between stars at least at human lifespan scales. This would drastically change the equation for why beings would come here. The sentinalese are fairly trivial to get to. If you got on an airplane in New York, you would be able to get to them in less than a day and without the need to carry your own life support systems. Going from one solar system to another takes 4 years at the speed of light. It would take a generation at 0.1 of light speed. Would anyone spend 40 years at huge expense to prank drunken rednecks and steal the naughty bits off of dead cows? Especially since you’d need life support systems, food, water, and waste disposal. This isn’t just a small trivial jaunt on a jet plane followed by a boat ride.
The trouble is that we keep conflating the age of sail to space travel. They are nothing alike. Traveling from England to North America took a month under sail. You had to bring food and water, but you were never in a hostile environment. In fact the age of sail was possible because the ocean would provide the propulsion for you in the form of wind and ocean currents. You thus don’t need to provide fuel. You could breathe the sea air, and in fact as someone who enjoys an ocean beach, it smells pretty good. If worst came to worst, you could easily catch fish along the way. Space is nothing like that. In a month, you wouldn’t even reach Mars, let alone deep space (which at current technology would take decades), and you’d have to pack everything you’d need including atmosphere and a way to recycle it, food (and if it’s a long trip, a way to grow food), water and a way to recycle urine into water.
Second, due to studying earth biology, we have a fair understanding of what kinds of chemistry to look for to find life on exoplanets. So far, I think there are maybe one or two that are possible candidates for exobiology. We know what to look for as far as technology, and to my understanding we haven’t found anything that’s even plausible as alien technology. No Dyson spheres, no repeated mathematical signals, no lights on the ground nothing that is large and regularly shaped and made of metal.
Based on this, im just not buying it. If aliens exist they’re as trapped by biology and physics as we are.
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