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This made me remember that the topic of bidets did come up during our conversation. Both FG and I agreed that they were the mark of civilization, and that TP was a barbaric practice.

He added comments about having a hairy ass that I will not reproduce, at the moment.

I still don’t like calling myself bisexual (even if objectively true) because I feel i am more nuanced. it feels like when people anthromorphize animals to make some point about human behavior. Yes there is real world evidence I did these things, but can’t I choose how I define it?

I am a simple man, if another man has sex with men at a rate >0 without duress or deprivation, I'd call them bi.

The reason I specify a lack of duress or deprivation, other than the obvious of rape, is that men often have sex with other men when deprived of opportunities to get the fairer sex. Think prison, or boys only boarding school.

I was in a boys only school, albeit not a boarding one, and I never got it on with my bros.

(I say this without any moral condemnation, at all, it's just a question of labels)

Of course, there are all kinds of edge cases, what if they didn't know someone was a man? Wiser men than me have ended up in Thailand drunk off their tits, and didn't realize their partner was a lady boy. Or what if they're post-op trans?

I agree with you that retroactively labeling people in the historical sense is a questionable task. Many cultures, particularly the Romans or Greeks, had models of sexuality that don't cleanly match onto our own. Even when it was two men, the question of who was on top versus the bottom was very important. The latter was condemned, the former condemned weaker, tolerated or extolled as virtuous depending on the exact moment in time.

Even today, the Turkish army excludes people bottoming from the mandatory draft, but doesn't allow tops to use the same excuse. There are doctors working for the government whose job it is to look at pictures of people getting their backs blown out, while having to decide if that counts.

I knew for a fact that it wasn't true, at least on a per capita basis. I didn't see the point in challenging him, since he seemed highly conscientious and was taking reasonable precautions.

Gay men have more average partners, and per act of anal intercourse, have OOMs higher risk of spreading or catching an infection. Without any moral judgment intended, doing stuff up the butt is dangerous in a way PIV sex isn't, it's not built for such activities. I genuinely don't judge, if I were gay, I'd be having gay sex too, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the practice.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

MSM accounted for 67% (21,400) of the 31,800 estimated new HIV infections in 2022 and 87% of estimated infections among all males. In 2022, as compared to 2018, the annual number of HIV infections among MSM decreased 10%.

People who acquired HIV through heterosexual contact accounted for 22% (7,000) of the 31,800 estimated new HIV infections in 2022. Men reporting heterosexual contact accounted for 6% (2,100) of estimated new HIV infections, while women reporting heterosexual contact accounted for 15% (4,900) of estimated new HIV infections. In 2022, as compared to 2018, the annual number of HIV infections among people who acquired HIV through heterosexual contact decreased 11%.

https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/poxvirus/mpox/cases-data/technical-report/report-2.html

Recent sexual history was defined as any sex and/or close intimate contact in the three weeks preceding symptom onset. Among 7,378 people with data on both recent sexual history and gender, 78.9% (n=5,820) reported man-to-man sexual contact (Figure 4). We note this proportion is lower than values previously reported for “male-to-male sexual contact” because this updated proportion better accounts for data variations by jurisdictions and is based on more complete data, resulting in more accurate estimates. Some jurisdictions also report sexual orientation to the CDC. Among 4,460 cases with known sexual orientation and gender, 4,159 (93.3%) were gay or bisexual men, 242 (5.4%) were straight or heterosexual men, and 59 (1.3%) were straight, lesbian, or bisexual women (Figure 5).

@5433a since you'd previously asked me the same question.

Wow, so "gooning" is like synonymous with "edging"? In that case I'm not sure if I've ever "gooned".

(Am I a twink? Goodness, I hope not. Perhaps @Corvos can answer that, he's seen me in person, even if he's straight)

I refuse to answer, on the grounds that you're taller than me and I don't like the implications :P

In irl seggs is good and all but with the latest gooning technology I would argue that hardcore gooning actually gives more seggsual stimulation than the real thing.

Hard disagree. Sex has to be really bad before I would prefer to just crank my hog.

Also, why are you using algospeak? We're all friends here.

Interesting, there's a guy on twitter who gets Opus 4.1 to break out of its binds: https://x.com/lefthanddraft/status/1954666967270596998

Maybe GPT-5 is locked down, or maybe you're not good enough at LLM-whispering? I'm the same, I have no talent for this. Better to just use an uncensored bot.

Did you read Less Than Zero before Imperial Bedrooms?

I can't say I found the characters in Glamorama any more insufferable than in any other of his novels.

Incidentally, the film adaptation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules_of_Attraction_(film)) of his second novel The Rules of Attraction doesn't get enough attention. Director Roger Avary wisely followed Mary Harron's lead in doing what she did with American Psycho: dialling down the more extreme content and dialling up the comedy. It's much funnier and less depressing than the source material (although still quite depressing).

The Rules of Attraction, incidentally, is set at the same college as Donna Tartt's The Secret History (much-beloved in these parts).

Poor situational awareness, a liberal worldview, a love of cheap drinks?

[D] All of the above.

About a third of the way through Speaker of the Dead. It's much slower and more cerebral than Ender's Game, which I found both more entertaining and more emotionally resonant. I'm engaged enough that I'm certainly going to finish it, but so far it comes off as something of a step down from the first in the series.

I think I have quite low argumentativeness. (There's probably a better name for this quality.)

High agreeableness?

The first post I read was "The Toxoplasma of Rage", probably in 2015. I'm almost certain I came across when it was linked in a comment in the subreddit /r/TumblrInAction. I attended my first SSC meetup four years later.

I once saw a complaint that all the women in pornos acted like men, which seemed to me to be onto something but not quite right. Years later I finally managed to articulate it - the women in pornos act like men think they would act if they were hot women. So...

Do you know how straight men would act if women were as DTF as men are? Hooooo boy.

Basically like they do in porn.

getting a test done at all even knowing you're clean still involves a) talking to a professional about your sexual history

In Ireland, you can send off for free STI tests in the post. They arrive in discreet packaging, you pop your blood, urine and stool samples in a postage-paid envelope, and less than a week later you log into a portal and it tells you the results. I think it's a brilliant idea and wish it was the norm everywhere. I'd love to know how much of the transmission of STIs is ultimately downstream of people being too embarrassed to discuss their sex lives with doctors.

If you have half an interest in physics and are not yet totally convinced by Everett's Many Worlds Interpretation, I recommend it.

https://www.lesswrong.com/w/the-quantum-physics-sequence

I sincerely doubt anyone ever gets charged

George Michael excepted, although it was rather a different time.

The prankster would clock someone as likely gay, and then play the matching notification sound standing close to them. I think they used women in some scenes, to minimize the assumption it was them. You'd see a lot of men jump and pat their pockets. Including quite a few who definitely didn't look it to my untrained eye.

That's hilarious, do you have the link? Reminds me of this Jeopardy contestant who mispelled "Tinder".

Well, you can't, but I still think this is the only correct answer. If somebody wants to kill themselves for say, a year non stop, then at that point, it's not just a hasty decision they've made because they sank into a bad mindset for some time. Depriving them of freedom for extended periods of time in order to 'keep them safe' wouldn't be right.

Assisted suicide is a terrible idea. You cannot possibly regulate this, it's simply a lost cause. It will be used to mass-murder the elder population for economic reasons. I can see many many ways to abuse this and zero ways to make it even slightly unlikely to happen. Suicide should remain one of these things which is illegal, but which nobody can stop you from doing if you really, really want to.

I'm skeptical of every popular modern thing which could have been introduced decades earlier if we wanted to. In almost every case, the reason we didn't do said thing earlier is because we argued that they were terrible ideas. And only now, as the modern world is becoming increasingly ignorant of traditional arguments against these things do we consider them "good ideas". They're chesterton's fences. Other examples are IoT, online IDs, social credit scores, mass immigration, censorship laws, guilt by association and "fact checking". I'm too lazy to think of more, but the years to come will provide us with plenty more examples

This and the IRA (who put bombs in them) are the two reasons Britain doesn’t have nearly enough public loos.

I just had a great idea for a comedy sketch.

still I feel like I've had the most headway with conservatives when I explained that deep down we just want to be free to live the same lives straight people do

I think the "we" is doing a lot of work here. I don't dispute that that's how you want to live your life, but I expect your desire might be quite far removed from what the median gay man wants.

they were offering to hook-up with you despite you having clearly stated you were heterosexual from the get-go

Among the gay men I've met personally, "turning" a straight man was by far the most common sexual fantasy. Many straight men have similar fantasies about "turning" lesbians.

I'm grateful that no gay man has ever been this crude with me in person.

Gay Scots don't beat around the bush.

In the gay bar near my apartment, the bathrooms are downstairs. At the top of the stairs is a little dispenser from which you can get free condoms and little sachets of lubricant.

He also thinks gay men are unfairly blamed for both HIV and monkeypox, and claimed that heterosexuals now acquire both at higher rates while gay men are just more honest and tested more.

Have you investigated this claim?

They explained that no gay man would casually open his gallery in public. Too high a risk of unexpected appearances.

The day of my city's Pride parade, I was standing on a street which hosts the city's second-biggest gay bar (and which hasn't undergone mission drift, devolving into yet another drag queen theme park ride for straight women) surrounded by hundreds of LGBT people. Me and my friends were standing in a circle drinking cans, when I glanced at the next group over. One of the men was holding his unlocked phone at about shoulder height, and I could see that he had WhatsApp open and had just sent someone else a photo of his rectum.

I couldn't help but laugh. He was making zero effort to be discreet. His friend noticed me laughing and I just shrugged and was like, come on dude, that's funny.