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				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Then that can be said instead of making unproven allegations.




I think it's fine to make allegations, as long as it's clear that they are allegations, and you're not misleading people by implying you have hard evidence.




We know the Algerian government viewed her as a woman, because despite being intersex they had her competing in women's sports.




Which says precisely nothing about whether or not Khelif is, in fact, a man or a woman, particularly in the presence of a Y chromosome and testicles.




Shifting from bailey to motte here. The allegation isn't "they could have incentive to manipulate the coverage" but specifically that the 2019 change by Rotten Tomatoes is active manipulation to hide how unpopular The Oddysey "truly" is.


The issue is that this actual allegation is objectively stupid,




No, you're just misrepresenting the original argument. Unless I got lost in the conversation, I didn't see anyone say this was made for the Odyssey specifically. The claim is it was made for shitty movies in general, and The Odyssey is a specific instance to which the claim applies.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Dunno, never heard of him.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Quite prominent, but your argument would be better served if you found an example of someone who isn't regularly called a Nazi.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Yes, it's of course trivially easy to find left-wingers in general criticising it at the time. Plenty of outright communists, even, criticised it as bad praxis. So in the broadest sense, the statement that I made is correct.




Are you sure about this? That's not how I remember it. From what I recall mainstream Democrats circled the wagons around it, and the only communists that criticized it as bad praxis were /r/stupidpol types that routinely got called nazis themselves.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


So in other words, there is no evidence.




Which is much less own then you think it is, given that there is zero public access to anything that could be evidence, and no reason to assume the site is acting in good faith.




"Khelif has XY chromosomes" != "Imane Khelif is a man."




Yes, it does.




and it's not just hardcore lefties who believe that but also again Algeria a Muslim conservative nation that had Khelif participate in women's sports.




You are again trying to use your vague impressions of a country you know nothing about to wave away the results of a chromosome test. This means nothing you say about evidence existing or not existing can be taken seriously.




You know you can just literally Google how the Algerian government treats and views LGBT people right?




Who said anything about Khelif being LGBT?




Well yes, conspiracists are typically stupid.


Remember, this entire conversation is about a 2019 change to push poll casual viewers being alleged as an intentional manipulation to cover for The Odyssey failing. Five years before it was even in production!




Oh dear. If you're going to call people stupid, you probably should make sure you're not going to misrepresent their argument to such a drastic extent. Studios have an incentive to manipulate the coverage of shitty movies in general. The Odyssey might happen to be an escalation point in the measures they take, but otherwise it's just a specific instance of what they do in general.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Why? We literally did have people saying "If you've got 10 people seated around a table, and a Nazi sits down, and nobody gets up, you've got 11 Nazis.". They were somehow magically right wing? Apolitical?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


..seems exactly the wrong way around. It was woke politics that grew popular around 2010 that ended up taking over reddit, not the other way around.




I think "the other way around" is right, though. They didn't take over by becoming popular, they took over by consolidating moderation in their hands (I think right now a handful of people moderates a ridiculous amount of the most popular subs, though I don't remember the numbers), and getting admins to ban opposition.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


And it ended because a teenager died.




I don't know if it was the same incident, but I also recall a story about a black kid dying because a bunch of lefties filled his car with bullets, and immediately went on twitter to brag about how they killed a fascist (and then promptly purged the tweets). Though I thought that happen earlier in the zone's existence, and it went on for a week or two more after that.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
No, somewhere between 2016 and 2020. Back on /r/ssc.


Either way people tend to undersell thr amount of left wingers that are present even now. We have more left wingers here now than there are right wingers on any subreddit.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


This is not true whether we're talking about Nazis or about violent leftists.




Why do you recon not a single leftwinger stood up and said that, back when it was a fashionable thing to say, even on our forum?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


If this was true at all, why does the accusation of manipulation against RT have to be so dogshit?




Because the public does not have access to their source code, their communications, their frontend or backend., which is how we found out about the other companies manipulating their results.




It's very easy to conceive of them as anti spam bot/impersonation/algorithm manipulation etc measures




It's very easy to conceive of any smoking gun evidence as something mundane, but when someone explicitly says they don't use a particular measures for ranking, and their leaked documentation says they do, a rational actor usually assumes bad faith on the part of the party making the declaration.




Funny then that so many of your examples are still highly debated, even in conservative circles like Khelif.




Khelif is highl debated in the same sense vaccines are highly debated, your attempt to dismiss a chromosome test with vague assumptions about the culture of a country you've never been to is probably worse than most anti-vaxx arguments.




But yes, this proves all the conspiracy theories are true after all




You're the one that brought the "this is what conspiracists say in these other cases, therefore you're wrong argument". If it works one way, it works the other way as well (or, you know, it was dishonest to make it from the start).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That's when the sun doesn't shine on it:




often to describe rough, stormy seas.




				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


If the right can rally around scandals as first world problem as "a beer brand did a promo with a trans tiktoker as part of their plan to recruit more customers" and "the mnm is less sexy" then certainly they could rally around greater scandals.




It's not a greater scandal. Websites secretly manipulating their algorithms / whatever results they present is completely normal now.




Or consider that just like the false claims of manipulated review scores, these also lack anything actually substantial to rally around so everyone cared more about sexy candy.




Ok, let's consider it. In a world where these claims are completely false, I don't expect to see Twitter moderator frontend screenshots getting leaked with accounts being tagged with terms like "search blacklist" or "trends blacklist", and for external tools that check whether an account was shadowbanned to exist, or Google API documentation leaks that show that in their ranking algorithm they keep track of attributes they deny have any relevance (including one literally called "smallPersonalSite".




"It turned out it was true all along" is one of my favorite type of arguments however.




Yes, it's a great argument! Whether we're talking about the dual wielding Scottish girl having been sexually assaulted by migrants all along, Imane Khelif being a man, transgender medicine not being based on sound science, and the most renowned pro-trans medical association being fully aware of it, and deliberately hiding the fact, the "It turned out it was true all along" argument is popular as it shows how little regard for facts self-styled "anti-conspiracists" have.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


It would be a big deal if actual manipulation could be shown and proven, particularly if it happened constantly and wasn't just a one off like "oh this reviewer got caught in a bribery scandal".




You're just repeating the original assertion, not explaining why you believe it's true.




The big issue is that most of the time when people claim to find something like that they're wrong




I disagree. People claimed that social media was shadowbanning and limiting their them based on their politics, it was called a conspiracy theory, and ended up being 100% true for multiple social media platforms. People thought  Google is deranking  independent websites, people like you called it conspiracy theory, and it turns out to be 100%, and so on, and so on...


Manipulating algorithms you have power over is completely normal. Your insistence that it would cause any sort of scandal strikes me as extremely naive and baseless.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Would be a big deal if true




Why? Few would notice, and those that noticed would be ignored. To they extent they're not ignored, you'd have a good chunk of people coming up with arguments for why it's not true. Even if it somehow came out that it definitely is true, people would just shrug, like they did with the "far right conspiracy theory" of shadowbanninf on other social media.


Doesn't sound like a big deal to me.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Tinker Tuesday for July 21st, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I changed to monster-projectile collision model from  circle-circle to circle-rectangle, it should give me a bit more flexibility with what I can do with the projectiles. I still have to add an offset factor so the collision box isn't necessarily centered at the projectile location, and I still have to test it fully, but so far it seems to be doing what I want.


During the tests I was playing with the parameters the simulation. I managed to smooth out the monster-monster collision so they don't get stuck on each other so much. I also thought I could later incorporate some of the parameters into the game mechanics, like adding a time slowdown, or a "gravity bomb" that could pull all the monsters and crush them, but for now that's heading to the backlog.


How have you been doing @Southkraut?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I had to go back and check if I'm getting ripped off.


No... it's just the VAT...


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I've already watched that anime.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Who's building all those mosques on Texas, and electing Mamdanis?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
It still seems pretty contradictory to me. In particular this:




Immigrants in our countries are people who are fleeing mortal danger and desperate conditions




and this:




Palestinians are hardened blood drenched terrorists, all of them are taught to hate and kill since the earliest age.




Are the same picture. I suppose you could some "desperate conditions" are economic in nature, but a lot of the immigrants being shipped to Europe were/are from active war zones, with a culture and mentality bit that different from the Palestinian one.


Also when it comes to survival, I'd say the Jews as a coherent group have more years ahead of them then either of the Balts. And it's not even a factual disagreement, liberals usually just shrug at the prospect of any European-descended group being dissolved. It's seems to be a values disagreement, where they only care about one group surviving, despite their pretense of having universalist principles.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The US census considers MENA people white, but I think that if you asked the average competent user of English, "Are Arabs white?", "Are Turks white?", or "Are Iranians white?", they would answer "no", and if so, then I think Mizrahim cannot count as white either.




If you asked them to arrange the groups according to how closely related they are to each other, how far from Europeans do you think an average English speaker would put them, relative to other non-European groups?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 13, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
We were being told it's a single internet user, or just a couple crazy kids on the Internet, for years. It then turned out that, among many potential consequences, expressing a contrary opinion can get you fired. Trying this argument again is just insulting to anyonr whp hasn't spent the last 10 years in a comma.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 13, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That's cool, but how are you any less of a partisan hack?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Damn, what do you think might happen? Will quality of research get so bad that half of all studies won't replicate? Will doctors start pumping kids full of hormones, and chopping off body parts for no reason? Will AI engineers allocate significant resources to making it more stupid?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 20, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
You also get a discount the longer you subscribe. My all products license costs me ~20€ per month right now.