Gillitrut
Reading from the golden book under bright red stars
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I admit I'm struggling a little to understand what the actual policy change is here. Downthread @ToaKraka posted this USCIS Policy Alert. That Policy Alert points to this Presidential Proclamation as the source of the 19 countries. That Presidential Proclamation was issued all the way back in June. So the National Guard shooting was the impetus for USCIS to implement a 6-month-old Presidential Proclamation? I guess I'm also finding it a little hard to follow as, like, a matter of logic. An Afghan national who started working with the US in 2011 in Afghanistan and was brought to the United States in 2021 along with a bunch of other US-allied Afghans then was granted asylum in 2025 and shoots two national guardsmen later that same year, therefore we must restrict immigration from Burma. Huh?
Gillitrut
Reading from the golden book under bright red stars
1d ago
What was the legal justification for killing them?
Gillitrut
Reading from the golden book under bright red stars
2d ago
If it is not a "war", if the people the admin is blowing up are not lawful combatants nor achieving military objectives, then it is murder instead.
Gillitrut
Reading from the golden book under bright red stars
2d ago
I mean, the Post's reporting is that the order was to kill everybody. That doesn't sound like the killing of the two initial survivors was incidental. That may turn out to be wrong, of course, but if it's accurate I am pretty confident saying it's a war crime.
Gillitrut
Reading from the golden book under bright red stars
2d ago
Someone online pointed out that 18.3.2.1 of the Department of Defense Law of War Manual reads:
The requirement to refuse to comply with orders to commit law of war violations applies to orders to perform conduct that is clearly illegal or orders that the subordinate knows, in fact, are illegal. For example, orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal. Similarly, orders to kill defenseless persons who have submitted to and are under effective physical control would also be clearly illegal. On the other hand, the duty not to comply with orders that are clearly illegal would be limited in its application when the subordinate is not competent to evaluate whether the rule has been violated.
That second strike, if it happened, is literally in the manual as an example of an illegal order that would be a violation of the laws of war. I am as-yet unclear on how involved Trump or Hegseth were in this operation but it sounds like, minimally, everyone in the chain of command between Admiral Frank Bradley and whomever actually executed the strike is, at least, a war criminal.
Gillitrut
Reading from the golden book under bright red stars
3d ago
I've worked with probably a dozen or so Indian coworkers over the years and this does not describe any interaction I've ever had with them. I am also deeply skeptical that a kiwi farms post from a thread entitled "The India Menace - Street shitting, unsanitary practices, scams, Hindu extremism & other things" which cites no evidence is going to contain accurate generalizations about Indians.
Gillitrut
Reading from the golden book under bright red stars
3d ago
I'm not sure how common it is but it's something of a running joke among Indian immigrants at my company. That you go from having servants who do all the cooking, cleaning, etc to the United States where you have to do all of that yourself, even if lots of other amenities are available that aren't in India. "Yea the air isn't smoggy all the time, but I have to clean my own toilet!"
Sounds like your coworker needs to learn about pescetarianism.
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