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If we can just all survive and hold on until November, it will all be worth it, because finally the third season of the Rings of Power will arrive on Prime. Let joy be unconfined!
Myself, I can't see the fourth and fifth seasons being produced, but who knows? Anyway, to let you all have a teasing tempting taste of the wonders on offer, here's the official trailer.
I have to admit, I'm looking forward to this. Not because I love it as an adaptation of Tolkien, but because it's such a disaster on stilts that I've gone all the way through anger, denial, and grief and come out the other side into a state of Zen serenity. It will be absurd and hilariously over-blown and it will be exquisite.
On the one hand, the showrunners seem to have been dragged, kicking and screaming, within spitting distance of canon. No more Harfoots! Elendil's second son makes an appearance! Celeborn shows up in time to remind Galadriel that she's a married woman and not a freewheeling member of a polycule! (though more on that later).
Elros, Elrond's twin brother, will make an appearance (no idea if it's just a couple of scenes, but hey, at least this is more than a tapestry on a wall in a neglected tower, right?)
Cirdan regrew his beard (and a good thing too, this midlife crisis nonsense shaving with sea shells was too much. You're millennia old and were around for the Great Journey westwards, time to act like it and not like some Second Age youngling who never even saw Cuiviénen).
Sauron finally gets around to forging the One Ring (and about time too, sez we all).
In case you were not sure about "are volcanoes hot?" (given that Glads walked off a pyroclastic flow to the face end of season one/beginning of season two), we can now reveal: "yes, yes they are, this is the official word of the showrunners".
But to offset all that, we get:
Another family person Orc. Even better, an Orc what writes poetry! Yes, my friends, finally we will get a glimpse of Orcish culture freed from the shadows of Elven supremacist propaganda!
The showrunners describe Marnûkh, played by Adam Young, as an “orc with an arc” who essentially defects to the Elves.
Speaking in the latest issue of Empire magazine (via Fellowship of Fans), co-showrunner J.D. Payne said: “We love the idea of exploring what orcs were before they became soulless, mindless slaves to Sauron’s will. So out of that was born this idea of an orc who would risk everything to defect, go to the Elves and say: ‘We have a common enemy.’”
While Marnûkh has turned traitor, he is “not a nice game,” is “morally challenged,” but “he has free will.”
Marnûkh also delivers a short rhyming-verse at one point during Season 3. “We wanted to make room to get to know that character,” co-showrunner Patrick McKay added. “What does he talk about? What food does he like to eat? What is it like to be an orc? We think it’s really important to find room amid all the epicness for stuff that’s really small and human (as it were). Maybe he’s making up a little rhyme! We found that to be one of the things that draws you in — but maybe he’s fooling you. Part of the tension there is: can they trust the orc?”
Nerdist also spoke with the showrunners about Marnûkh. Payne said viewers will think “he’s sort of sweet and funny, and there’s something sensitive to him.’ And even dare I say, poetic and soulful about him. But then, also, he’s constantly sort of undercutting things, and there’s part of him that’s gross and frightening. And so he constantly keeps everyone guessing.”
The Balrog will speak! Voiced by Simon Pegg!
Before they were Nazgul, they were... Nazgnagôl!
Oh, and you thought that Sauron just corrupted, deceived, and manipulated these kings and heroes of Men into becoming his servitors by means of subtle, seductive, magic via the Nine Rings? Ha, as if! Nah, it was totes gladiator style "last man standing becomes a dark wraith" fights to the death, doncha know?
Three weeks after Empire’s first visit, we return to Barad-dûr, to find Sauron now doling out rings. These are the “Nine for mortal men doomed to die”, as Tolkien’s rhyme had it. “The rings of power are a precious gift,” he snarls to a line-up of armoured men, gesturing to the shiny bands smartly displayed in a velvet display box. “Mordor can share but one.” He throws a sword onto the floor. So this is how it will be decided: a fight to the death. Later, we watch a scene where he crowns the winner. It’s time to meet the Nazgûl. The Ringwraiths.
Did you, like Galadriel, want to know what Celeborn was doing for all those years/centuries he was mysteriously missing? The answer would seem to be "Sauron. I was doing Sauron" (told you there'd be a polycule popping up)!
Okay, on that last, I don't think even the showrunners are that dumb, they just answered a question about a Sauron/Galadriel/Celeborn love triangle in the affirmative, because they are so out of the loop on Modern Audiences that they think it's the old meaning of "love triangle" (i.e. Glads is torn between having to choose one of the two hot hunky dudes fighting for her attention). They plainly have not seen what I have seen, as the interviewer took that and ran with "Celeborn and Sauron def. a thing, you read it here first":
At San Diego Comic-Con, actor Benjamin Walker, who plays Gil-galad in The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, offered the following popular assertion to Jamie Campbell Bower, who plays Celeborn in the series. Walker said, “You’ve been in the Middle-earth equivalent of sadistic Alcatraz for a thousand years. You’ve come out and realized Sauron has slid into your wife’s DMs…” And the crowd goes wild. Speaking to the cast and showrunner after the panel, I take these thoughts to the showrunners of The Rings of Power. Was Walker correct to frame the relationship between Celeborn, Galadriel, and Sauron as a complicated relationship tangle, indeed, I say, as “a little bit of a love triangle?” And to that, The Rings of Power‘s showrunners, J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay, offer me. “Yes.” And then take a beat and confirm again, “The answer to your question is yes, absolutely.” And yes, folks, I did literally say, “Love Triangle.”
I'm just waiting for the ship name (Sauborn? Celeron*?), we already have the actor photos 😂
I can't wait. I literally can't wait. This disaster just gets even more baroquely grotesque with each new iteration. The snarky review videos on Youtube will be amazing and I'll be there for each and every one. I hope Charlie Hopkinson has his calendar cleared for roasting Season Three.
Yes, I may be further enriching the Dark Lord Bezos with my Prime subscription, but this time it will be worth it!
*Okay, yes that was a range of low-budget computer chips back in the Dark Ages, but nobody who is into shipping Celeborn and Sauron is old enough to remember that.
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