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AlexanderTurok

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Nice takedown of that strawman.

The majority of what he posted on Twitter before he became Pope (which wasn't much) was criticism of Trumpist policies or ideas.

During the trade war with Canada the Canadians threatened to turn off its electricity supply to America. Trump and MAGA used that as a reason why America couldn't rely on foreign countries for electricity:

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/3zhsGGkCA11aj2O0t57NaQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTQ5MQ--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_635/80f6a10cc60a71ffc764529da7c7eb2a

They really cannot grasp the correlation between their behavior and outcomes and think that's a good argument.

It's a reference to a supposed Russian proverb "the Jew will always tell you what happened to him, but he'll never tell you why."

Iran and Russia got hit because they engaged in acts of war against other countries. It doesn't occur to "they" that you can avoid having to worry about such things if you don't pick fights with foreign countries.

It's basically the mindset of the prison gang guy who's big and tough and strong and always thinking about how he will defend himself from attack, who sees of himself as a hard-headed realist, and is 10x more likely to die a violent death than the average schlubby insurance agent who never thinks about self-defense at all. MAGA is an entire political movement based around this mentality, which wants to drag the entire country down with it.

if you don't control your borders adequately then hostile enemy security services will infiltrate your country and use inexpensive one-way attack munitions to blow up your strategic assets

They'll never tell you why.

And while that might function for a while, it seems unlikely that the United States can survive with each state having its own immigration policy any more than it could survive half slave and half free.

There's no reason it couldn't. It really depends on what the anti-immigration people are upset about. Are they upset about illegal immigrants in their communities? If so, letting California be a sanctuary could actually help them, as more ICE resources could be dedicated to their areas and some illegals would leave and go to California. If they're upset about illegals living in blue communities many hundreds of miles away, then no compromise is possible.

Theologically serious Catholics, nowadays, have to vote Republican

Don't think the Pope would agree.

If they didn't have to worry about re-election there'd be a lot more "ACBs" in the House and Senate.

The correlation between social and economic conservatism isn't all that surprising in light of facts like these:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVSIRXhWYAAxzzp?format=png&name=small

"what do college kids like? oh yeah sex'n'drugs'n'rock&roll"

No-college kids like that too.

Right now, they can't make enough of Governor Walz being pro-reproductive rights and so forth.

Makes sense. It's their best issue.

For they are fiends in human shape, monsters of depravity.

That's the norm across the West. In most of Europe abortion is non-controversial even in conservative and far-right parties.

pro-life not wanted in the Democratic Party.

Yep. The reaction is akin to how the GOP would react to "pro-Sharia-law Republicans."

Why do you believe in supply and demand? Sure, it's "basic economics" but economists mostly reject your theories on immigration and trade. If you're going to throw out economics, you might as well go all the way.

How is it that we didn't run out of jobs decades ago as population increased?

Lump of labor fallacy.

Except all across the board, in this scenario, the country removes the downward pressure to wages caused by the underclass who can get paid under the table, who cannot ask for help if they are abused, and who are desperate to accept any wage to avoid going back home.

Machinery is also abusable and doesn't require any wage at all, should we increase wages by banning it?

If we cut the labor pool, the wages and benefits will rise for these jobs.

What makes you think this?

Men don't work as much as they used to.

Most of that is students and retirees. If you look at the male labor force participation rate aged 25-54, it's 89.5%. Number is going to be higher for white men. Perhaps the MAGA Maoists want the students and retirees to work in the fields as part of their Bangladeshification campaign.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LRAC25MAUSM156S

Nobody is suggesting that high school students go work on the farm. We're suggesting that high school students work at McDonalds, and the possibly legal Mexicans who currently work at McDonalds can go work at the farm, both at higher wages than are currently paid for those jobs. And no, working a service job is not a degrading thing to do for a kid.

What happens if the Mexican decides he'd rather stay at McDonalds and the employer decides he'd rather keep the Mexican than cycle through a bunch of high school students? Is central planning the economy on the basis of race part of the plan?

And if you did hire high IQ high conscientiousness people to do the work, they would actually do a better job than the illegals.

MAGA Maoism. Take computer programmers and make them do the job of Bengali peasants, but we'll be 10x richer than Bengali peasants because of high IQ. It has the same vibe as "guy who says he supports eugenics to piss of the libs, but opposes any actual eugenic policy because it supposedly conflicts with his religion." You know IQ-realism is based, but disrespect actual high-IQ people working high-IQ jobs.

they still hand them out that stays long enough

You can not do that.

There's a clear path to amend immigration laws to make the immigrants never eligible for U.S. citizenship. Birthright citizenship in the only big stumbling block, but even that is possible, offer the Democrats a compromise of much higher immigration levels in return for abolition of birthright citizenship.

The unemployment rate is very low, those workers are going to come at the expense of jobs that are higher up the tech tree. I know the MAGA plan is to make the economy more like the agrarian-industrial economy of Bangladesh while maintaining American standards of wealth, because the government can just wave its hand and make these jobs high-paying. It will not work.

When they start voting to pick your pocket, and turn America into Mexico?

BTW, have ANY of the paleolibertarians updated amidst the massive movement of Hispanics into the Republican Party?

Individual experiences must vary a lot here, I took painkillers and found it wasn't much better than being drunk.

The first isn't crashing and burning though.

And the latter is also possible, just look at the U.A.E.

You can focus on cutting the welfare spending instead of doing deportations, has the added benefit of not antagonizing business.