ThomasdelVasto
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Blogger, Christian convert, general strange one. https://shapesinthefog.substack.com/
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ThomasdelVasto
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13hr ago
Indeed, we have very different views of virtue. You're rather Neitzschean I suppose. It's a shame, you could be quite a force if you used your powers for good.... ;P
ThomasdelVasto
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1d ago
Indeed, you get it my friend. I also just took on a leadership position at my local parish, and am volunteering in a broader capacity with my larger church body.
I think that the best we can do is simply bide our time, spread awareness, and grow our social capital, our virtue, while supporting our side of the culture war here and there. Store up treasures in heaven, where moths can't destroy and thieves can't steal.
ThomasdelVasto
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1d ago
The only way I can plausibly imagine this working is men going NEET en masse, and that may arguably already be happening. But it's unclear to me what change an army of NEETs can effect.
Yeah this is the "lying flat" movement in China, which is spiritually corrupt imo.
Personally I prefer a strategy of working a low-effort job, enduring relative material poverty, and putting more effort/energy into building social capital, virtue, and an awareness of the problems.
ThomasdelVasto
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1d ago
Yes but this sort of hate-fueled rhetoric is just inaccurate which turns a ton of people off. Democrats lawmakers/elites are not openly murdering conservatives, poorly adjusted criminals and depressed schizos are. I understand that there's a strong argument to be made that the Democratic governance LEADS to these murders, but you have to actually make that argument!!
When you say things like
they can just murder you, your children, and your representatives and suffer virtually no political consequences.
This loses you the moral high ground, and the fight when it comes to normies. You're being taken in by your rage and making strategic mistakes. It's not just that it's factually wrong it's that it's a losing strategy.
ThomasdelVasto
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1d ago
I ended up fighting for a decent settlement that was close to a year's income. Probably the better option all things being equal given that the CEO is insanely paranoid and pushed out everyone that did real work in the company. The CTO had it worse than I did but can't talk about that publicly.
Either way, given your posting history on here you're not exactly someone I'd ever look to for moral advice, tyvm.
ThomasdelVasto
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1d ago
Imo he basically has to frame it this way to make it fit for public consumption. The normies aren't ready to turn against females and minorities, but this will shift the Overton window.
ThomasdelVasto
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1d ago
I was in a Ph.D program in 2014, hoping to go into academia, and I ended up dropping out because I could see that there was no way forward. I know it's a tournament profession and my odds were never good, but once I was inside it became apparent that it was in fact literally hopeless.
Yeah I had a similar path, wanted to go for a history PhD but all my professors told me it was hopeless as a white man. I also went into a tech startup, and we crushed it, then I got fired two weeks before my equity would've vested despite far surpassing all the goals in my initial contract.
I try to keep the light in my heart alive, stay focused on Christ, etc, but damn I am fucking angry. I have to say. I wish there was a more constructive movement to end this shit, very sad to see that so much of the dissident right is just pure vitriol.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
For what it's worth, they're hardly alone in this. The Russians watch LotR and see the orcs and say "That's me!" They even play horde in WoW.
Everyone who's anyone plays horde in WoW. Come on now.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
Well yes, much of the postmodern corpus is inherently contradictory and illogical. That’s a part of the whole thing. Didn’t stop it from dominating higher levels of the academy and culture for much of the last few decades.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
Yeah fair points. Capitalism is indeed a mighty beast, slouching towards Bethlehem. Sigh.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
I am referring to postmodernity as basically, the falling away of beliefs and overarching, meta narratives and more broadly the idea that there is any sort of objective truth. Another way to put this is the turn away from cultural relativism, identitarianism esp wrt trans, etc is what I’m broadly referring to. I could be more precise.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
No worries. It can be good to go back through old topics anyway, not a problem at all.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
Yeah this is the line @2rafa has argued often in the past, quite convincingly. I agree that Jews in general are some of, if not the most, single strongest genetic group in terms of IQ and other desirable traits.
I do wish Fuentes and others would work more on getting Jews aligned with the general nativist agenda as opposed to re igniting blood libel. Unfortunately they feel betrayed because Jews have admittedly been huge pushing the overall progressive consensus after the Holocaust. It’s a tricky subject, but I’m much more on the side of converting Jews instead of kicking them all out or murdering them.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
To clarify, I’m looking more at the leading edge of academia / the intelligentsia as a whole. Overall population numbers with religion are extremely sketchy, especially given that many people will nominally identify as religious while not holding genuine belief. I may be in a bubble regarding the intelligentsia as a whole, but this still seems to be the case. Let me know if you think I’m wrong.
However FWIW, I have read from Ryan Burges who specializes in this field that the falling numbers of religious identification have been arrested, while trans identification is sharply down in the last few years. Again I wouldn’t update too far on these major pop numbers but it’s something to go on I suppose.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
What will come after post-modernity? From my perspective we are already seeing the postmodern lens break down a bit, as religion is getting a bit of a upswing, and many leading intellectuals are turning away from the post modern lens, or rather incorporating it into their thoughts. Examples here are John Vervaeke, Charles Taylor, Jordan Hall, David Chapman, and many others.
In addition, there seems to be a tacit admission amongst the secular humanist crowd that their worldview no longer has the appeal or swing it once did. Tyler Cowen and Steven Pinker, in a recent podcast discussion, went over how humanism seems to be somewhat dead and there aren’t many bright young humanists out there. Cowen also said the same thing about young liberal thinkers with another podcast guest recently, Cass Sunstein.
If you look at the death of the effective altruism movement, and the shift from rationalist to post rationalist, I believe there’s a similar trend.
To me the question becomes less “will old school meta-narratives” return, and more: what will be the ground of future exploration?
Will we adopt “metamodern” stances as they become useful and abandon them just as quickly, as Chapman suggests? Or instead will we rescue the transcendentals, and understand classical theism & morality through a more relational and dynamic lens, as Vervaeke and others are working on?
While the modern chaos can be exhausting at times, it’s also a moment of great opportunity. I’m interested to see what comes next.
ThomasdelVasto
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2d ago
Either go to a monastery or work some crappy part time job in a rural area and live on welfare, spend time writing etc.
ThomasdelVasto
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4d ago
A cynical and sad story. I hope you find love someday friend. And I hope this model lady wises up before its too late.
ThomasdelVasto
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5d ago
Semi-Forced remigration via economic and legal means is the only way to make this happen at a large enough scale. And is definitely possible. It’s what the right should be aiming for.
ThomasdelVasto
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6d ago
Don't listen to the haters, I thought this too. AI paranoia all the way.
ThomasdelVasto
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6d ago
Yeah OP can check out Tummo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tummo
ThomasdelVasto
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7d ago
Been lifting consistently the last few months and I feel amazing. The key for me to stick with it was just make it dead easy. I do two sessions a week for forty five mins each, full time leaving home and coming back is one hour.
Just do a basic whole body workout both times, no fancy splits or rotations. Plus 15 mins of cardio per day.
Heard Nassim Taleb say once the biggest mistake people make is working out for too long, and I totally agree. Makes way more sense to do a basic routine that’s consistent and makes you feel good.
ThomasdelVasto
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7d ago
Modding someone who isn't a liberal/progressive? But I thought this place was a hugbox for insane rightoids! /s
Thanks for the good work.
ThomasdelVasto
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8d ago
And yeah, there's the internet... but I feel like the internet is getting worse every year. And driving 30 minutes for real life culture is highly optimistic. I don't just want to stare at some paintings, i want to be part of a community that looks at paintings, do you feel me?
Move to Europe.
ThomasdelVasto
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8d ago
When i go back there now as an adult, it seems creepy. An adult single male just doesnt fit in there at all. Everything is oriented around child rearing- for young children. Almost nothing is open at night. There's hardly anything in the way of aets, music, or culture. The social life all revolves around "the parents of my chikd's friends." Its just not a place someone like me can live.
Depends on what you value. Arts, music, and culture can all be readily found on the internet. If you want to go experience it in person, it's typically a 20-30 minute drive away from the suburb. You can easily manage that a night or two a week.
I accept your critique as stifling a teenager, though I don't think that's a bad thing. What exactly is the problem as an adult male?
This is way too defeatist my friend. While we yet draw breath there is hope. We absolutely can and will reverse this evil and corruption. Far mightier empires have fallen throughout history. It may seem impossible now, but things change gradually then all at once.
I've been seeing the normies get more and more radicalized my entire life. I think we're on a good trajectory.
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