ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
But they also 'knew' that people aren't the kind of stuff that can fly.
Did they? Or is it one of those self-congratulatory narratives written by their opponents, decades after the fact?
"They didn't ACTUALLY transcend nature so it wasn't real vindication of hubris" looks like moving the goalposts to me.
I don't think so. There's a few levels to this:
- Reproducing something we know can be done, but is out of our reach. Aerial flight would go into this, but to take a current example, let's take warp drives. We know space does bendy things sometimes, so it is not beyond the realm of possibility to master that phenomenon, and turning into a method of transport. It is beyond our reach, the requirements to reach it might be absurd given our current understanding of the universe, but it doesn't particularly break any mechanics.
- Doing something that, as far as we know can't be done. Let's say time travel. Ok, I don't remember if this goes into the "theoratically possible" bucket or it breaks mechanics, but let's just go with for the sake of argument. Sure, I'll accept that as a good curve ball, but it doesn't matter because:
- We're talking about transhumanists. Their claim that uploading your consciousness into the cloud will constitute it's preservation in any meaningful way is a metaphysical one. Even actually achieving it does nothing to prove or disprove it. It's literally a belief in a soul.
Transhumanist thought, as I see it, lacks the inherent reverence that the religious mindset comes packaged with. (...) In the end religion is not about entering Heaven or Hell, it's about using the promises of those states as a tool for society-building. I do not think transhumanism is about society-building first. I think transhumanism is about entering Heaven first (or Hell, according to doomers).
I don't think a lot of religious people would agree about their religion being about society-building first, and I'm pretty sure that if any belief described itself as "entering Heaven / Hell first" they would instantly recognize it as religious.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Just like last year, I will point out that the server costs continue to be borne by about 25 patrons, making us the Internet's leading (possibly only?) independent user-funded (ad-free!) open political speech forum.
Petiton to pimp up Quincy, change the caption to "bitch better have my money", and equip him with that patreon link.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Imane Khelif, however, seemed to have really redpilled a lot of people. The sight of an obviously male person punching a female person and being rewarded for doing so triggers an intense emotional reaction which probably has a long standing evolutionary basis.
Nah, way before that there was Fallon Fox, an actual transgender, rather than male with DSD like Khalif, literally cracking an opponents skull.
You're not going to find a neat explanation, why this incident and not another. They just ran out of mana.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
He was originally unnamed. I think there was a brief moment when his country of origin was known, but not his ethnicity, or name.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
You're setting the threshold of "norm" precisely at, "taking control of the supreme court by refusing to confirm qualified appointees was Fine but taking control of the supreme court by adding more justices would be Bad." One heap is bigger than the other, but they're both heaps.
If you think packing the court is fine, we can begin right now. Many Republican presidents could have done so during a number of years in the past. Isn't it odd they didn't?
You're clearly defining "norm" in a way that benefits your political interests
I don't see how I'm doing this. The way I'm defining "norm" might benefit my political interests in a specific case, but a simple look at the historical record will yield many cases of it benefiting my opponents.
That's why this whole "norms" business is pointless in the first place. It's just a useless definition game.
Ok, cool. So let's a stop with this nonsense of telling me how orange man bad, because muh norms.
How many grains of sand does it take to form a heap?
How's that relevant to anything I said?
"Coherent" is, ironically, an incoherent target. Rather than create a few hard rules, it makes more sense to define a number of overton windows and accept that they're going to shift over time... but within a self-correcting framework that advantages particular kinds of evolution.
Well, I think that's a recipe for having your creed undermined and completely subverted over time, but that's beside the point. I'd like to know some specifics. What happens to people who stray outside these overton windows? What specific self-correcting mechanisms are you talking about?
Assuming I had a creedal nation like I wanted, there would be particular mechanisms in place to enforce that creed, which people against that creed would likely be unable to tolerate. but if muslims really want to come to a country where you have to attend church on sundays to be able to vote, then I'll take the win with grace, and welcome all the soon-to-be-converts.
That's great, I think it would work as well. However, you said that even though you disagree with leftists and liberals on matters of creed, you "think by far the bigger threat is a government that excludes people who indisputably share my creed, versus a government that would try and promote another creed" and went on to say how you're confident truth will win out in the end. This would imply that you'd be fine with importing a sizable Muslim minority even if you didn't have the ability to force them to go to church, and that the costs of excluding the tiny amount of Christians would outweigh the costs of excluding the Muslims, even under those circumstances.
Have I misunderstood something?
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I think God is willing to personally intervene on behalf of my religious community... and you think it's strange that I'm confident?
Correct. Catholics aren't known for just letting it go, because they're confident the truth will win out in the end. They are known for a highly organized church, a highly formalized dogma, and putting significant resources into their maintenance, and proselytization. It's like that quip from Star Control "peaceful missions through the cosmos rarely require weapons large enough to punch holes through a small moon".
The truth is an asymmetric weapon.
Yes. It's not the only one though, and the other ones might have the advantage depending on the situation. You wouldn't be considering forcing people to go to church otherwise.
And if I'm wrong... then I should have no fear of being set right!
Huh? If you're wrong about the truth winning out in the general cosmic sense, you should have no fear of being set right? Wouldn't that be your absolute worst case scenario? If you actually had the truth, but it lost, because you refused to fight for it?
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
The screenshot is right there in my original post, but the source is the anons following the case, so it still could be a TracingWoodgrainesque hoax. I wish the local media could get the girls' side of the story but they're all awfully quiet on that.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
If she'd taken off while Lola was arming herself, the video more or less adds up?
If this happened they way the anons / crowdfunders describe, I'd guess she took off after Lola showed up. The dude was tormenting Ruby, Lola comes back armed and tells him to leave her alone, he turns around, takes one look and says "oh, ain't that cute, let me get my phone, I have to record it".
The question is whether, after you've wrecked her, you're going to find you've got an artery gushing out.
And his answer is "no". Guys... I used to be a shoved-in-the-locker nerd, and the stuff people are saying here makes me want to start shoving people in lockers. We're talking about early-teenage girl here. Sure, if she goes into berserker mode, loses all social inhibitions and fear of pain, taps into some forgotten animal instinct that tells here which vulnerable spots to go for, she just might get lucky and do actual damage. Now look at the actual video, none of these things are likely to happen by my estimation, but even if they did, I'm putting my money on the adult man kicking her teeth in, and walking away without a scratch.
The most likely way for the guy to get hurt would be the "feigning vulnerability" route that Iconochasm mentioned.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Her behavior. I don't know how to describe it, but she's not acting like the sort of person that has it in her to stab someone.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Of course, how on Earth does one retrieve weapons fast enough to return before the end of a scuffle between a 13 year old girl and two adults?
If she lives in a flat that faces that playground, it could be a matter of about a minute or two. I wasn't retrieving knives and axes, but I've done this sort of thing plenty of times as a kid.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Ma'khai Bryant is an existence proof of immature girls with a melee weapon being a legitimate lethal threat,
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying the Scottish girl doesn't seem to fit the profile for that sort of thing, that I built up over the years. That said I'm just going with my gut.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
I'm taking bets at this point. Most girls don't behave that way, and the ones that do don't look and act like her.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Yeah, I'm sorry, even if you're right, so what? How about: it's wrong to assault little girls, no matter how "low class" they are? How about: it was insane to believe this girl, who can barely hold these tiny "weapons" in her hand, was a part of some migrant-harrasing chavette gang?
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Then why did all your examples involve incidents that happened after it, and not before it?
Does anyone know how to get confirmation / denial from the police or prosecutors as a random nobody from another country? We might be getting a update on the Braveheart incident.
Highly sophisticated Twitter anons are now claiming that Fatos Ali Dumana has been charged with assaulting a minor:
- Police Scotland originally claimed that CCTV footage went missing but it proved that only Lola Moir had committed a crime by being in possession of dangerous weapons
- It is now claimed that this is a lie and there is proof that Police Scotland attempted to cover up the crime of Fatos and his sister assaulting the little girls
- Attached is the screenshot of the hospital record proving that Ruby Moir sustained a serious head injury (concussion) as a result of the assault by Fatos Ali Dumana and his sister
Now, this isn't new information per se, as @FistfullOfCrows pointed out "it has been alleged". I can't find the link to where I first saw the allegation, but I've seen it, and remained skeptical thinking "shouldn't there be a medical report"? Lo, and behold, there seems to be one attached to the above tweet.
Ok, it's still trivial to fake something like this, it would be nice to get some sort of confirmation from a disinterested source.... oh, look (Turn off javascript to read. I tried archiving it, but they seem to have countermeasures) a local newspaper is saying that """Two further people""", """a man and a woman""", have been charged as a result of the incident. No names are named (funny how you can dox a little girl, but somehow adults are a step to far), so who knows, maybe it's the girl's parents that are being charged, but with all the other irregularities around the incident, and the newspaper's cageyness around the names of the suspects I wouldn't bet on it.
So... does anyone know how to go about confirming / denying this? @self_made_human, you're in Scotland, would you be willing to make some phone calls?
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ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Ken White says that the Tweet is "within shouting distance of prosecutable in the US". Maybe
Yes, please tell me how all the talk of "punching nazis" was fine, but a joke about kicking trans women in the balls is dangerously close to prosecutable.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
There's so many of these news nowadays that I would have seen as prime CWR material a few years ago, things that half of our subreddit swore up and down would never happen, happening, but honestly it hardly raises an eyebrow at this point. What can even be said about this?
One encouraging thing is that this seems to have backfired badly. The tide has turned on the trans issue, arresting people for tweets is retarded, and they picked a target with a lot of media connections, so it's literal frontpage news in British media. I honestly want to send a thank you note to the genious in the Police that gave the order.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
That is not an accurate description of how the Republicans got their supreme court majority
I know there's this mythical idea about how some dude got kept away from a spot that should have went to him, but the idea this was breaking some norm is absurd. It was a pretty typical play for any liberal democracy.
But whatever-- there's no point in fighting about who started it. Ultimately, both parties have proven that they don't care about norms, except as a way to complain about things that get in their way
In this case I'm saying the opposite - both sides have kept to the norm. Let's see if the court gets packed, or something, but so far so good.
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
Debatable, and I asked the question spefifically because he was asking us to take Blue Tribe greviances without litigating the details.
They don't want to help, because given the chance, they didn't. It's not about size, because New York cried uncle too, and they got sent a tiny portion if what the southern states have to deal with. Being upset about promises would make sense, but being upset at getting sent the immigrants does not, if they actually believe what they say this they do.
And what were the fake promises anyway?
ArjinFerman
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3mo ago
That's great, but I still want to know why the reaction to Abbot's and Lukashenko's shenanigans wasn't an amused confusion. If immigration is really so great, shouldn't the recipient jurisdictions be saying something like "thanks, you're only making us stronger"?
in fact for many brands it is a straightforwardly correct commercial decision.
Prove it, please.
People who watch right-populist Youtube videos don't buy packaged laundry detergent - their mothers buy it for them.
Ad targeting algorithms already try to find the most likely buyer, you wouldn't need boycotts if this was what it's about.
Right now it would either be Genspect or Themis Resource Fund, I think the latter should stay relevant even if, god willing, the whole trans mania finally blows over. If not, some kind of uncucked Free Software org, but I don't have specific recommendations here, since they tend to be subject to corporate and progressive takeovers.
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