ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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11hr ago
What's "artificially propped up"?
It's all the money that goes into all the orgs that put up all these flags, organize all the marches, etc.
In the case of a manager of a small coffee shop
ArjinFerman
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11hr ago
The Russian translator from the linked example could speak English and listen to what English speakers say and mean.
ArjinFerman
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13hr ago
Well, hold on, teenagers shouldn't be taken seriously, but it's hardly because they express lizardmen opinions.
ArjinFerman
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13hr ago
You don't need tradbasdness to not have rainbow flags, you need progwokenwss to have them. Even in the west, with people sympathetic to wokeness, the amount of in your face symbolism would go down by 10x, if it wasn't artificially propped up, simply because people have better shit to do.
I wasn't suggesting the OP try to set up an explicitly white nationalist town, just that it's not hard to find an almost 100% white conservative town in America.
It was just an example, if you tried setting up an exclusive religious community, you'd be treated largely the same way. Like I said the core issue is being able to ensure that the community stays the way you want it to be, and that the powers that be can't just come over and pull the rug from under you. I get that you can find communities that are ~100% aligned ethnically, religiously, or whatever to your liking in America, but lots of these communities have been deliberately uprooted by the state and federal government shenanigans in the past, and there's no indication the situation will change any time soon. You might say "but there are still a lot of these communities left", but I don't think reasonable to demand that people who just want to be left alone, are also told to move periodically - and that's without taking into account the fact that they'll obviously run out of places to move to at some point.
Which is why I asked OP about the "evil" he wants to contain. I maybe should have phrased my question a bit better. A better question maybe would have been what does he want to change about society?
If you're reading this thread, you've surely seen the kind of things people are upset about - being extremely lenient to criminals, while being punitive toward people who defend themselves from them; using the public school system to indoctrinate children into bizarre ideologies that demand they self-flagellate for the way they are born; the medical establishment performing undisclosed gender-experiments on their children, and outright lying to ensure the parents' compliance; public schools helping to facilitate these experiments in secret from their parents... The list goes on, and I'm sure you've already seen most of these complaints.
Because if it's wanting to be left alone as a white conservative well that's easy to enough to achieve, if you want to seize control of the culture well that's something different.
It's not actually easy to be left alone. All the things I mentioned are imposed top-down, even on conservative localities.
Russia is but only by repression a democratic Russia would see St. Petersburg draped in rainbow flags pretty quick.
You're acting like these rainbow flags are put up organically, like the English flags in the UK, and aren't put their by paid NGO mercenaries, backed by it's own apparatus of repression.
But what is it you actually want? To be left alone in a mostly white area? You can move to small town South Dakota and I doubt anyone will much bother you.
Any attempt at establishing sometihng like this, that ensures it can't just be taken from you when convenient, is deliberately attacked.
To go someplace the government isn't woke well all of Eastern Europe is open and Russia just made a visa for people just like you.
Maybe Russia. Most of Eastern Europe is just a few years behind the program.
I found this post well written and evocative but also vague you want to strike back at "evil?" what does that mean exactly?
I can give you a list of examples, but surely you understand that a question like "what is evil, exactly?" is a bit unreasonable?
ArjinFerman
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20hr ago
Reality check: Iranians say مرگ بر آمریک. The literal translation is "Death to America." The Arabic الموت لأمريكا likewise translates literally as "Death to America." There is no "translation issue"
Reality check: That's not how translation works.
Were there? Because I don’t recall any of that and I’m European and old enough to have watched the second plane hit WTC live on BBC at work.
So am I, and I kinda remember some of my friend group going "fuck them". Though we were all retarded teenagers at the time, and I don't remember much of what the adults were saying. 4bpp is European too.
ArjinFerman
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21hr ago
No, I am, in fact, a conspiracy theorist.
ArjinFerman
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21hr ago
Sure there is. Conspiracies are what drive the world, and the view that it's instead driven by some "organic" Brownian motion is completely without evidence, or reason to assume as true by default.
The psy op in question is plainly observable from all the top-down messaging of our society, from the education system to the media.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
The obvious fix for an increased parental age would be for the state to pay for the harvesting and cryo-conversation of gametes of young adults and IVF a few decades later when they want to become parents.
This is literally breaking a leg to sell a crutch. How about we just stop with the insane anti-natal psy-ops instead?
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Hope everyone here is ok as well.
I think most people here are lucky enough to live outside of active war zones. Stay safe!
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
I'd imagine most of them are of voting age simply because that's around when you start getting into politics. Some start earlier (I think for me it was around 16), but even then that's a skip and a jump away from being able to vote.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
I mean, if you go with Putin's explanations on that Tucker Carlson interview...
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
aside from the three who fell to Kuwaiti friendly fire?
What is the evidence that it was friendly fire, by the way?
...I guess the logic there is that a crisis hits, and the army has to pick sides?
I actually don't know what the logic is, it's just a poll I've seen people discuss, don't know if any respondents had a chance to elaborate on their thinking.
but note how all action still routes through the state.
We're Europeans, please be patient with us.
Have you seen the clips where Farage categorically rejects the idea of mass deportations?
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There was a time when people would have laughed at the idea of calling George W Bush a Blue.
Yeah, I did, but this is kinda what I meant with "similar gripes". Yeah, Europe might be stuck in a doom-loop, where the liberal establishment does something insane, people vote against it, and what they voted for turns out to be containment. I'll even happily admit the Farage is even more worrying here, because it's a bad sign when he doesn't even wait to win before stabbing his supporters in the back, but the general patterns can be observed even in Trump.
I think Bush is a point in my favor here. My point is that even though he turned out to be Blue, people voting for him wanted someone Red, so their support for him should counted towards the Red Tribe.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Are we looking at the same chart? They're leading by 7 points. The Greens are a bigger threat at this point.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Yes? All this sponsoring has done far less damage to the region and to Europe than American operations. I'm yet to hear a good reason why this should be a blip on anyone's radar.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
it doesn't seem to me that there's a European analogue to the Christian Right
Mostly correct.
or to Gun Culture in terms of relatively-large, cohesive and politically-powerful subcultures
Correct.
The UK right is pretty clearly willing to accept the left's electoral victory.
Also (...mostly...) correct. Yeah, Europeans aren't as good at bottom-up organizing, and there isn't anything resembling the American Red Tribe alternative culture and institutions, I just think you're going a bit far when Mr. Brexit is making a credible bid for prime minister, and you're calling it an "intra-Blue conflict".
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Does the UK right imagine themselves as patiently waiting, playing politics while the electorate learns the correct lessons? They don't give off an appearance of being that serious or prepared to me.
I know these polls are volatile -- more like (dis)approval polls of the current boss than anything else -- but stakes are potentially very high.
Yes, but keep in mind that it's not just about Greens overtaking Labour, it's also about Reform (Nigel Farage's party) overtaking the Tories. It's hard to frame that as "patiently waiting" IMO.
The UK can afford that better than we can because they are not as polarized; their current situation is a conflict within the local Blue Tribe analogue, with no significant Red Tribe to speak of.
I don't think that's fair. The European Red Tribe isn't going to look the same as the American one, and while the hard right has it's gripes with Farage, they aren't that different from the American hard right's gripes with the Republicans. On top of that, there's Lowe, who might not be polling high, but ir doesn't seem fair to call him insignificant.
That said, I think you're right about the "can afford" bit. Starting a new party in Europe, even in a first past the post system like the UK's, seems to be doable with a lot less friction than in a giant country like the US.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
No tinkering for me this week.
How have you been doing @Southkraut?
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
On a spiritual and cultural level Maga is something far more sick, ugly and deranged than Nazism.
If that's the case, the entire American culture is worse than Nazism. You can trivially find Blue counterparts for "recognizing no concept of dignity whatsoever".
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Too modern for my tastes.
Not "in any way", you can have fundraisers and whatnot. But taking tax money to fund the indoctrination of people and their children, into values they consider hostile, sounds pretty artificial to me. It's not even necessarily bad, per se. I support various forms of tax-funded indoctrination, but remember that the conversation was about how anti-wokeness stems only from "repression", I'm pointing out the repression it takes to promote wokeness to begin with.
If the flags were just put up by local cafe's and the like, I might dislike it, but it would hardly bother me.
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