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And every gimmick hungry yob

Digging gold from rock n roll

Grabs the mic to tell us

he'll die before he's sold

But I believe in this

And it's been tested by research

He who fucks nuns

Will later join the church


				

User ID: 195

FiveHourMarathon

Wawa Nationalist

17 followers   follows 6 users   joined 2022 September 04 22:02:26 UTC

					

And every gimmick hungry yob

Digging gold from rock n roll

Grabs the mic to tell us

he'll die before he's sold

But I believe in this

And it's been tested by research

He who fucks nuns

Will later join the church


					

User ID: 195

At the end of the day, though, it's a circular story with a lot of repetition, and the things that made it so transgressive and compelling aren't really that unique nowadays.

I think it's exactly as, if not more, transgressive than it was at the time. The central argument of the story is "Who is the manly man and who is the cuckold?" And I don't think we have any better of an answer now than we had then.

Some out of the box candidates, seen from a high school textbook in the year 2525, if man is still alive, if woman can survive...:

-- The PATRIOT Act. "The First American Republic was slowly destroyed as the relationship between the population and the government became increasingly adversarial, with surveillance and control mechanisms raising tensions ultimately leading to the Third American Civil War, which ended at the Battle of Chicago with the announcement of the Greater North American Barony..."

-- NWA's Fuck Tha Police. "The song translated the alienation between ethnic black communities and the police into the mainstream of white youth culture, and despite numerous efforts the lack of sympathy between citizens and armed forces and security services lead to the development of increasing within-caste identification and endogamy, ultimately giving rise to the brief American Mamluk regime after their victory at the Battle of Chicago, the collapse of which resulted in the permanent rise of the American Caste System."

-- The Bailout. "The reality that both political parties sided with the large capital and ownership class against the peasantry lead to increasing acts of violence against corporate targets, with the Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, January 6th Movement, which culminated in the Luigi Cult Assassinations which precipitated the Second American Civil War and the events of the Chicago Commune..."

-- The Cubs victory in the 2016 World Series. "The breaking of the Billy Goat Curse ushered in a period of chaos which lasted until Wrigley Stadium burned down during the Battle of Chicago. As a result, while the Cubs are allowed to remain in Major League Baseball, their salary cap allocation is set at a quarter of the other teams in the league, in order to prevent a repeat of the prior astrological crises."

-- The Election of an Illegal Immigrant Dreamer District Attorney in a Purple State*. "White American Citizens refused to obey laws enforced by a prosecutor they did not consider to have a legitimate claim to live in the country let alone enforce its laws. Signs appeared outside police stations reading 'I'm not even supposed to BE HERE' and 'Does she even go here?' Tensions escalated as citizens began refusing to participate in the justice system: conservative whites because they refused to recognize the authority of the district attorney's office, while poor blacks took advantage of this to continue their long running rivalry with the police force. The combined force of white and black protests ultimately sparked the Battle of Chicago..."

*I'm not going to go into too much detail here, but I know at least a dozen DREAMers who are ADAs in large cities.

A significant percentage of people really believed the soft or hard version of the stolen election theory, such that they didn't believe Harris could lose. Similar to how many if not most Eagles fans thought the Chiefs couldn't lose in the super bowl, even when neutral analysts would give them the advantage at every position but kicker and QB. Some percentage of Harris belief was really "the election is fake" belief.

I thought Harris was playing for an honorable second from the assassination on. She didn't manage it.

In what way are the multiple interpretations of Obama different than the multiple interpretations of Trump? It was a pretty similar phenomenon.

Obama said Gay Marriage couldn't work because when a man and a woman get married "God is in the mix." Dan Savage told me, a faithful reader of his column in the back of The Onion, that Obama didn't really mean it, he was just saying that to get elected. We should vote for Obama to advance Gay Rights. Trump waves a pride flag and has famous trans friends. Evangelicals tell me he doesn't really mean it, he was just saying that to get elected. We should vote for Trump to roll back the Gay Agenda.

Obama said he was going to end wars. He didn't really mean it. Trump said he was going to end wars. He didn't really mean it.

Obama talked a lot of trash about corporations. He didn't really mean it, unless they broke woke taboos. Trump talks a lot of trash about corporations. He didn't really mean it, unless they annoy him personally.

Obama and Trump both had cults of personality in which what they said was what their fans believed, regardless of any past statements.

That he got shot and his reflex was to jump up and yell fight fight fight. You can't teach that.

Root for the Eagles today, I'm at the linc. If any of our Philly bros are in attendance hit me up for a beer. Go birds.

That doesn't really work either, with the statement that blacks have more crude status being obviously incorrect.

Saying “Trump should not be sending the National Guard to American cities” is fine, saying “Trump is doing an authoritarian power grab by sending the National Guard to American cities” is too far because words like authoritarian, fascist, Nazi, and related are incendiary and dangerously lead to the acceptance of violence against anyone smeared with those terms.

How do you deal with the Euphemism treadmill problem within this logic? "Nigger Rigged" isn't polite and can get a guy in trouble, so construction workers start calling it "Afro Engineered" but we all figure out what that means so they just start calling it "Ghetto," in polite company calling something or someone Ghetto has obvious uncomfortable racial implications, a lot of black lawyers are going to bristle at a white person calling something of theirs Ghetto, even if they themselves would use the term disparagingly in another context. The implication remains the same, and over time the new euphemism becomes rude as well. Moron becomes an insult so we get Retarded which becomes a slur so we get Special Needs and kids start calling each other shortbus.

Trump's in great shape! He plays golf and only cheats a little!

Age is a weird factor in the whole chart. Because realistically Ellen DeGeneres was a hard WOULD in her sitcom days in the 90s, and curved for being 67 she'd still clean up today.

So I'm not allowed to have the same opinion as many other people? I'm allowed to be intolerant inasmuch as my intolerance is arbitrarily formed and odd (I hate the Beatles) but not where it's common?

Where does the interpersonal sphere end and mass society begin?

September 2025 was the month when I really leaned into using ChatGPT as my coach.

Every day I enter my workouts for the day and the symptoms I registered in my hip during the workouts and afterward. "I back squatted 175 for 5 sets of 5, I went to about 80% depth and stopped as soon as I felt any hip discomfort, I only felt any minor hip discomfort near the bottom of the range of motion. Afterwards, my hip actually felt better than when I started. What does this indicate about my recovery process?"

While I've used ChatGPT for medical diagnostics before, but it seemed like only a minor improvement over Google symptoms => WebMD. But here I'm seeing the value in talking to it constantly about a medical problem. Even if a free LLM is not exactly a doctor, but I coul dnot find a doctor around here who understood an athletic concept like "back squatting 50% of 1rm to 80% depth" or "rolled two five minute rounds in BJJ, starting from bottom De La Riva, I felt a minor twinge when I rotated my leg into single-leg X but I was fine working from guard. My hip hurt a little bit after but was mostly better in the morning." And in order to get the kind of treatment for a minor injury where I could bug a doctor with that every single day, I'd have to be playing for the Lakers, and on a big contract at that. ChatGPT can interpret individual exercises relative to the injury, can analogize it to my knowledge of professional sports injuries ("An NBA player with this injury would be out for 3-6 weeks").

Now where I pull back is that it has very rarely told me not to do anything, or that anything was stupid, and that it's just telling me what I want to hear, or that it's a low-cost version of Voltaire's aphorism that "medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature heals the illness" and that my hip is getting better for simple reasons and that I would do the same things anyway and it's just a yes-man in the background. So maybe I shouldn't drink too much flavor-aid.

But it's nifty.

I'm more torn about how I've been using chatgpt as a coach to help be improve my bicycling. On the one hand, it's super neat and super easy. "Hey, why is it that it seems like I'm going faster and smoother on a road bike, but when I check Strava data I'm going the same speed as on the hybrid?" It gives me answers really easily and in depth. But, idk, shouldn't I be joining my local bike club or bugging my neighbor who is super into bikes or something? It's nifty that I can find this out without interacting with anyone else, but one more nail in the coffin of the requirement for social interaction.

I picked up a knockoff chinesium Oura ring on Amazon. My dad has been going through some cardiac issues, and tracking all his various blood pressures and pulse and Blood-Ox and between the feeling that one ought to track one's own metrics and health and a general curiosity I wanted to pick up a cheap tracker. I'm finding it to be kind of an abusive relationship, the ring says mean things about me and I thank it. "Wow I am really stressed, I better not do anything, thanks ring!"

Lastly, question, are there any alternatives to Strava out there? When I was using it much more occasionally, I didn't care about the subscription features, but now it's kind of annoying me that it's constantly advertising gated features I don't need and being sort of annoying about it. I'd pay $20 up front for something like that, but I don't want a subscription.

The idea of Google being enshittified was incomprehensible when I was young. Clearly it isn't so anymore.

I'm sorry but when you see a pickup truck with two American flags on it, it's a red tribe supporter. You have to be really Galaxy brained to come up with something else.

I'll look into that, thanks!

But philosophically, it's less personal interest that I'm talking about than it is a sort of market competition threat against enshittification. As long as its possible to homebrew at some level of effectiveness, OpenAI won't be able to completely ruin their product and still market it. Social networks enshittify because I can't make my own at home. In my mind I'd like to set up a local LLM more to learn the process for the inevitable future where I can't trust the commercial variants that have been enshittified. Inasmuch as I find LLMs useful, I want to have full control over it to protect myself from losing a tool that I find useful because it is under someone else's control. Hosting my own might be the intermediate step...

To what extent is it or will it become possible or practical to run a homebrew jailbroken LLM on local hardware? That's the big question in my mind.

I'm late to the party, and I'm aware of it, in that I'm only just now using LLMs beyond a toy for research and education purposes. But essentially every day I'm aware there's an expiration date, that the product is just a few bad days for the SP500 from being enshittified. Whether that comes in the form of censorship and legal caution that makes it useless for my purposes, or in the form of pricing that makes it prohibitive, or commercialization and monetization in ways that make it unreliable (pay extra for your product to be recommended!), or optimization for it as people start to operate their products specifically to be seen and understood by LLMs. There's going to come a time when I can't just log into ChatGPT and get a good result, I'm sure the old timers are already complaining; and there's going to come a time when there isn't enough VC money sloshing around to fund a competitor like Grok that throws off shackles.

So at that point, can I or will I be able to operate a homebrew LLM for my personal and business purposes? I'm not handy enough to know how possible that currently is, or how user friendly, I'm at the level of "I can run a Linux machine but I'll need to look stuff up once a week or so."

It's an odd example of how fashion turns. Beards were nearly extinct when I was a kid, became more common among Red Tribers largely as something perceived as manly-man and as part of a "warrior ethos," and now are being cracked down to promote a "warrior ethos."

Personally, I like no-beard policies because a no-beard policy makes for easier to enforce aesthetic standards than a neatly-trimmed-beard policy. The ideal policy is something like: no-beard or neatly-groomed-facial-hair as looks best on the individual > no facial hair policy > anything goes. There's a lot of guys that either can't grow a good looking beard (neckbeard, scraggly, gaps, whispy, etc) or won't choose to (stupid, lack taste). While I'd have no inherent aesthetic objection to a military of men with proper beards, we really can't have a military of men with whispy pedo-staches, neckbeards, foot long Gandalf locks, or whispy pseudo-amish long goatees. It's undignified, it looks bad, it's disreputable, it reduces uniformity and the sense that a soldier is a soldier is a soldier. It is much tougher to enforce "hey private your beard looks like shit you need to shave" than it is to enforce "everyone needs to shave" because the former is personal and specific, and I'm not sure the average officer is equipped mentally to enforce aesthetic standards anyway.

I think the core message of the play is it's not stupid if it works.

By some standards Silicon Valley Buddhists are more similar to US Protestants than the latter are to Eastern or Oriental Orthodox Christians.

To some extent this has been my personal experience: I could not convert to another religion if I chose, I couldn't take any other religion than Catholicism seriously, or I wound up back at Catholicism. Religion is in the blood.

It's actually the exact opposite--the declaration explicitly says that polygamy was ended due to external interference.

So if it's legalized it would pop right back around? Is social tolerance enough?

Leading to considerable efforts to add the Book of Arnold in some quarters.

Anti-Gay extremism by blacks normally contains at least an angle of "being gay is a white thing" to it.

Whether we assume that the "red" homophobia washes out the "blue" black supremacy or vice versa sorta shows the limitations of the "red tribe vs blue tribe" dichotomy once applied outside of YTs.

Isn't the relevant question here whether the shooter considers Mormons Christians and attacked them as such?

It's sort of like the cases of Sikhs or Hindus getting the shit beat out of them by guys shouting about Muslim terrorism, that's still an anti-Muslim crime even if the victims aren't Muslims.

If the shooter intended to kill Christians, and perceived Mormons as indistinguishably Christian vis a vis Catholics or Evangelicals, then it was an anti-Christian attack.

I'm not sure you can code that left or right at all

It's amazing how this tranfers from one side of the culture war to the other as the natural excuse for an accusation.

The entire Christian religion is predicated on the assumption that Jesus would have agreed with it.