Fruck
Lacks all conviction
Fruck is just this guy, you know?
User ID: 889
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
6mo ago
From your comment, and other comments you made, I determined that you did not believe the economy was doing poorly, so I asked about your personal circumstances. I couldn't post in the thread about perceptions of the economy when I asked you about your personal circumstances, because it didn't exist.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
7mo ago
https://www.vice.com/en/topic/polyamory
https://www.vice.com/en/topic/swinging
https://www.vice.com/en/topic/cuckold
Ok now you link one article about celebrating the sanctity of marriage. Just one article that says marriage is a sacred union between two people that should not be interfered with. Note there are none in the marriage tag, those are mostly about being Indian for some reason.
I mean, I'm sure if you asked them now they'd say cheating on your wife is bad, but it's only until a new article about being pegged by your girlfriend's wife is required. Taking marriage advice from Vice is like reading The Watchtower for blowjob tips.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
For posterity though, that song is mocking the singer as well as the culture he was singing about.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
9mo ago
And it's really easy to avoid this mistake, too. Just create a new email account.
The amount of security you get out of creating a new email address is phenomenal and it's one of the easiest things you can do. It's basically the only thing propping up this story and all it would have required was 5 minutes on gmail (two minutes to create an account, two minutes to create the second account that you are actually going to use setting the first address as its recovery option, a minute to shake your head in disappointment at Richard Hanania.)
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
10mo ago
Sorry, I mean Fred. Actually that frame is convoluted and stupid so forget all that, I'll start again - if you have a machine to directly analyze each applicant's brain and determine whether they are experiencing unhappiness then you don't define an "unhappy person" as anyone who feels he is unhappy, you define them based on your machine's measurements. You are just treating people who ask for treatment and not treating people who don't.
Also you are tacitly admitting that that definition is endlessly recursive and provides no information.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
11mo ago
So this post brought drama down upon us? From /r/baseball?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2mo ago
I mean they technically don't change someone's "entire worldview" because that's not really possible
...
And yeah, I know, everything changes slowly and maybe the piece of media was just a "straw that broke the camel's back"
Come on man.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2mo ago
I think that your relatively safe opinions have stopped you from fully thinking this through. It certainly does seem unlikely at this moment that someone would use a voice recording from here against a user. But it also seemed completely ridiculous that people would lose their jobs for opinions they held 20 years ago, or go after members of your family, until it happened and now it happens all the time. The concern isn't simply this moment, it is the rest of time.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
Wouldn't a better idea be to fix the US economy so it doesn't require importing countless poor people to work unpleasant jobs reliant on the fact that they aren't here legally and therefore have no right to a liveable wage?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
We've tried man. He's in too deep now, he's made fliers and everything. Now he either has to do it or pretend to do it and never return to the motte after March of next year. In which case I'm making a documentary about my search for skookum... and possibly justice? (I'm trying to work in a true crime angle so I can sell it to Netflix.)
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
6mo ago
Was I wrong, do you think the economy is doing worse than the government says? Or do you, as I inferred, think the government is broadly accurate in its presentation?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
My take is that the kiss itself, not really that bad, but also something that does reflect on power dynamics, both men/women but also boss/employee. It deserved a real apology which was not given, instead the apology was not only extremely insincere, but also a result of behind the scenes pressure to sweep it under the rug and downplay. Rubiales doubling down was awful and it is kind of dystopian to see so much applause. He's the one playing a victimhood narrative, not Hermoso. Which is crazy! She didn't even talk about victimhood AT ALL until AFTER Rubiales basically lied about the kiss. I might add that Rubiales' version of events is in my opinion not supported by the video of the kiss, where they don't seem to have much of a conversation at all.
Yeah, sorry chum but I don't see anything in your post that changes this from the he said she said nonsense I thought it was in the first place. She says he lied about asking for a kiss. Why is she more credible than him? Because you empathise with her more. Anyone who feels the opposite will find Rubiales more credible. But we didn't record that exchange so we'll never know. What we did record has Rubiales mouth blocked by Hermoso's head while they hugged, which would also be a good way to say a few things in a roaring stadium.
Also
Commentary: Note how he focuses on how he's almost forced to apologize, how he created a distraction, and how he minimizes everything that happened. He doesn't even say what he did, he just says "what happened, happened". No big deal, no big deal. It's all about the consequences of his actions and nothing about how it could have made her feel or if he truly made a mistake. No, it's an apology that he "has to" make. This is, IMO, extra clear in the original Spanish and with intact voice inflections, etc. and I've tried to render the overall "vibe" of his comments accurately, though Spain-Spanish isn't my forte.
This is how every public facing representative apologises. Minimise everything that happened. Nobody was hurt by it, it was just a mistake. And yet, he does own up to his mistakes. He calls them his mistakes, he says he is embarrassed for distracting from the team's victory. Should he have busted out a whip and struck his sin away? Obviously Rubiales desperately needs some pr person by his side to slap the side of his head every time he opens his mouth, but once again it feels like we are razing the countryside over a minor interpersonal conflict, which is what nearly every msm cancel culture crusade turns out to be.
Instead, Hermoso is only a reluctant participant in the whole debate who might have though it also wasn't a big deal and wanted to move on herself, until pressure and slander essentially forced her hand.
Say what. So you think she didn't think it was a big deal except he said she said yes and that made it a big deal, because she was ok with the non consensual kiss but not ok with him claiming it was consensual, so after days of silence she released a statement denouncing the nonconsensual kiss?
Also why did this need a new thread?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
Detroit and Chicago vs Atlanta and Houston... Hmmmmmmm. There's something... I can't quite put my finger on it...
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
Igi might play along, but I won't - you are far too old to still believe in circles. Did you know that the first circle was made up by an isosceles triangle to mock oblongs? Just because some oblongs ran with it and started worshipping circles doesn't mean they're real.
(I know, I'm nutpicking, the oblongs I know don't believe circles are real, just a metaphor for striving to be a well rounded individual.)
Lol all I said was this is year zero thinking, and you claim I am comparing people to Pol Pot? Do I even need to be here, it seems like you are trying to do both sides of the conversation yourself!
I wasn't comparing anyone to Pol Pot. I said exactly what I meant to say, and I meant every word of it. You are still applying your 21st century morals to a guy who lived in practically a different universe.
As you say the issue was clearly controversial - back then. Because it isn't anymore, I'm surprised to have to tell you, slavery was successfully abolished in the US years ago now. Nobody is torn and conflicted in two thousand and twenty three about whether it's ok to enslave black people. In 2023 the idea of enslaving another person is heinous, and considered a defining moral failing - like murderers and rapists, slavers are considered defacto evil, whereas back then people who owned slaves were controversial, but still respected - enough to lead the Union army for instance.
So unlike you, Lee did not have the luxury of recognising slavery as an easily answered black and white question, he was forced to consider the entire confederate cause (which was not just about slavery, although I understand why you think it was) and he even had to consider other things like looking after his home and family.
This is why I updated the scissor statement to something more recent - covid. Given how sure of your moral clarity you are, you can easily tell me who the failed human beings there were right?
Edit: legibility
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
7mo ago
I was really hoping that my first aaqc would be for my post about my dad teaching me how to use toothpaste (as thermal paste.) I know it's not a particularly mottey post, but at the time I wrote it I was worried I would lose him and reminiscing with him (or at him I guess, he was in a coma) and it was nice to have a record. And while I don't particularly care about aaqcs (although I certainly appreciate the sentiment behind them and am grateful to anyone who voted for me) I think he would have liked to know one of our outings made people smile. Which reminds me - @self_made_human and @inappropriatecontent - you both said kind things about that post and I was too occupied and then too distracted to reply, but I really appreciated them and wanted to reply, but couldn't find the words at the time (or rather the sentiment behind them). Here are those words and the sentiment now though - thanks guys, I really appreciate it!
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Lol, reluctant. As if it isn't plainly obvious what your goal is here - a grand display of your power. "Ha ha ha" you say, "every single comment in this chain by both of us was reported multiple times, but I will enforce this one on you because I can, because this exchange didn't end with you slinking away defeated and I will not accept that result."
PS my mental model of you is flawless.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
10mo ago
Yes, and by "weeding out liars" you are explicitly not defining an "unhappy person" as anyone who feels he is unhappy. Originally the qualification to receive treatment was "feels he is unhappy". Fred and Joe both feel the same. One calls himself happy, the other calls himself unhappy. Originally this was case closed, you treat Joe/Fred and don't treat Fred/Joe. But with your machine in the mix, one of them is wrong yes? According to your machine, which measures unhappiness, both of them are unhappy or both of them are happy. How they feel doesn't matter, if it did there would be no liars to weed out, because there are no lies to tell.
So yes, if we had a roller-coaster that does some tricky twists requiring a specific weight balance and so we needed to restrict riding it to people who weighed at least a hundred pounds, and you used scales to make sure everyone seated definitely weighed enough instead of eyeballing it in, I would say you defined heavy enough based on your scales, because that's precisely what you did. I would also be confused at our fight, and be worried you somehow took it as a remark on your abilities, and that you might try to eyeball in the next group to prove yourself. Since we are carny brothers operating what is clearly an unlicensed roller-coaster, I would then make sure our trailer was packed and hitched so we could ditch town the second the screaming started.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
11mo ago
What? Are you saying that the op itself is the drama which the op brought down upon us? What does "drama" mean?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
11mo ago
Have you read about how the system works? And how they were camping the ebikes until all the meatbikes were taken so they could take the ebikes for free? Does that change your mind about her culpability? It did for me, but I admit I really didn't want to believe the pregnant nurse had done anything wrong.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2mo ago
So everywhere has rolled back the mail in votes? Because I was told they were the way of the future. If 2016 had been run like 2020 there would have been at least the same amount of drama. The only reason there wasn't is because it was considered too ridiculous. Mail in voting tipped the scales (along with, obviously, the candidate who campaigned on being ridiculous losing) from "voting is probably a useless scam" to "voting is definitely a ridiculous scam" for a significant chunk of the population.
Also the idea that irregularities won't happen again is lunacy. Irregularities happen every single election. The only difference is that now everyone on both sides is certain the other side will do it.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
Are you forgetting the beautiful stranger part? I feel like you are thinking with the wrong head, which is to say your actual head, which is not the head most men would think with in that kind of situation. Of course, most men will never be in that situation too, which only increases my belief they'd do it, because they know they won't get another chance.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
We listened to traditional Christmas carols these past weeks, now let's get more modern with it - what are your favourite newer Christmas songs (let's say recorded no earlier than 1970 1967)?
I'll start with some older ones - Step into Christmas by Elton John has always been popular in my family, because Elton John has always been popular in my family. But even leaving that aside it's a great song, and it's classic Taupin, with Elton breaking the fourth wall in the very first line to welcome us to his song, and the rest of the lyrics seeming perfectly christmassy if you aren't paying much attention, but actually kind of confused about the event if you do. Oh admission's free is it? One of those rare religious holidays you don't have to pay for? I'll 'step into it' then.
Merry Christmas Everyone by Shakin' Stevens is another song that always gets played at my Christmas dos, it always used to trip me up because I had never heard of Shakin' Stevens outside of it - actually until about 5 years ago I thought it was somehow Shadoe Stevens, the former host of American Top 40, who sang it. It is not, Shakin Stevens is some Welsh guy. Apparently he released this song the year after Band Aid released the immeasurably shitty Do They Know Its Christmas (no link for the second most patronising Christmas song in existence), when he wasn't invited to join in. I like to imagine he calls Geldof every year and rubs his face in it.
What Christmas Means To Me by Stevie Wonder is one of my all time favourites - it's why I dialed the cut off back 3 years - no one sells enthusiasm like Stevie Wonder. The blend of Motown music and traditional Christmas instruments is brilliantly done, and the lyrics are so earnest and sweet. When I'm feeling grinchy I just have to pop this on and I find my goodwill easily.
Last Christmas by Wham does not usually get added to my Christmas playlists, but that's because it's everywhere else all the time here in Australia. Even my fifteen year old neighbour knows it off by heart (he has been singing it in the shower this past week). Like all good Wham songs it's the George Michael show - he played every instrument on it, as well as writing the lyrics and music.
Christmas isn't Christmas 'til You Get Here by Kylie Minogue - God I love this song. Kylie ramps her cuteness into maximum overdrive to sing it, and the lyrics are just adorable - the repetition of single words (like ring, ring, ring, and blink, blink, blink), the bit about fairy lights, and there's a real sense of impatience in the way the bridge leads into the next verse that flows perfectly with the lyrics.
Christmas in Hollis by Run DMC is the quintessential Christmas rap. Mixing in the music from a bunch of different carols in classic Jay style, the boys rap about returning Santa's wallet, getting presents and Christmas dinner. The elf in the music video is pure uncanny valley though, just plain unsettling.
Doowop Christmas by Kem might technically not belong on this list - I've been told that because it's religious it's a carol, not a song. And boy is it religious, not only does Kem dismiss presents as paling in comparison to God's love, he also doesn't like Santa! He says "Santa's alright with me" twice in the song, and everyone knows that's code for "I hate Santa but realise no one is buying a Christmas song where I lay into him." But it's very catchy nonetheless, especially if you enjoy a cappella music.
Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree by Brenda Lee is a classic, and as a result I kind of hate it. Also it's 70 years old so it really doesn't belong in this list. But how could we skip the first song to beat Mariah Carey in the billboard charts since they added streaming to the count in 2018? Rockin is the number one track this year, having played runner up to All I Want For Christmas Is You the previous four years. How did it beat out a nigh infinitely better song? Well Lee made a music video for it this year, which got very popular on Tiktok. She definitely doesn't have everyone she knows streaming the song on repeat day and night on every device they own, no those Tiktokers love watching videos of old ladies swaying in a nightie. Also on a potentially related note according to YouTube Music it's an explicit song, which means I haven't been mishearing it all these years, she is actually singing "maybe we'll have some fuckin pie and we'll do some carolling".
Oh Santa! by Mariah Carey - while Oh Santa! will never be as much fun as All I Want For Christmas Is You, it's definitely a fun song in which Mariah begs Santa to return her ex for Christmas. Personally I prefer the version where she sings by herself as opposed to the music video's version with Jennifer Hudson and Ariana Grande - Jennifer Hudson is a great addition, but it sounds like Ariana needed a couple of xanax to get through the performance. And how is it Grande is wearing the least slutty outfit? Shouldn't the youngest performer wear the sluttiest outfit, not the oldest? Also what the fuck are you looking at in the sky to your left Mariah, can't you just look at the camera like everyone else? Anyway the song, I was talking about the song. It's catchy.
Santa Claus Goes Straight to the Ghetto 2017 by Snoop Dogg and Boyz II Men is a difficult song to track down, because not only has Snoop released a dozen different tracks called Santa Claus Goes Straight to the Ghetto, but so did James Brown. The 2017 version of the song is my favourite, it does a brilliant job of combining Snoop's musical sensibilities with the soul and feeling of Boyz II Men, and it's full of heart from start to finish. Snoop raps about the days of Christmas, about trading Hennessey for weed for the holidays and about having a baby girl so his mom can be a grandma, and the Boyz II Men sing beautifully as always.
There are many other great Christmas songs I haven't mentioned yet, what are your favourites?
It was the Friday fun thread. I don't want anyone to feel bad in the Friday fun thread. This is not a speak plainly issue because the joke was only, in my eyes, a clear cut example of the issue of surface level engagement. It was in itself not a big deal, but it both made me think of a problem I had seen more and more and appeared to be a perfect example of it.
I made a mistake in this Wellness post. I forgot how highly smart people value their intelligence, and so my claim that I no longer felt stupid here is all anyone can focus on and has caused great injury. I am sorry. You should probably mod me. Threatening to shut down analogies and metaphors on the speak plainly rule is absurd.
More options
Context Copy link