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George_E_Hale

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The things you lean on / are things that don't last

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George_E_Hale

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The things you lean on / are things that don't last


					

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Three stories in. It's interesting because Chambers (the author) took the Ambrose Bierce idea of Carcosa, and developed it into his story cycle, but then I think because of Chambers doing this then Carcosa was later used by other writers including Lovecraft, Gaiman, and even George RR Martin (as well as Nic Pizzolatto in True Detective season 1). The stories so far are not bad but more freaky and evocative than anything else.

The King in Yellow, sort of a pre Lovecraft, Lovecraftian set of weird short stories.

My opinion is just my opinion and is not meant to represent the macro level worldview of the group you're labeling "conservative." I'm speaking from my own experience of the world, particularly over time, and my views have evolved since I was much younger and the world seemed an eternal spring.

I've read on this very forum the view that parenting doesn't matter much, possibly related to a widespread view that nature trumps nurture. I think parenting most definitely matters--I'm absolutely certain of it--and also because of my own experiences and from watching people grow up around me.

I wouldn't suggest a certain parenting style will produce particular results all the time, but that's different from saying it doesn't matter.

I am not a psychologist thank god, and am not charged with having any particular view of this woman's psychology, damaged or not. I would suggest that her lifestyle at 30 is probably not sustainable in any sort of happy fun time past, say, 40 or beyond. Thankfully it's none of my business.

I am not sure characterizing the experiences she had as a child as "religious conservative" is accurate, or at least it's drawing the Venn diagram a bit large to encompass what I'd consider pathologic violence. The getting whacked with the stick bit repeatedly when told "come here" is far more a weird, violence and control for the sake of it experience than simple religious conservatism at work.

I have no idea if religious conservativism leads to damaged girls. I do know absent or distant father figures, and particularly violent and/or emotionally manipulative ones, do very much lead to damaged girls. And that's what she described in her partial memoir that was linked.

Also your characterizing Aella simply as a "sexually liberated woman" seems off here. Something something motte and bailey.

If I were her friend ot acquaintance (I'm not) I expect she'd not be able to tolerate me, as I'd be telling her all this LSD and free love isn't going to work out well for her in later life.

Whenever she's referred to here it seems more meta-, as opposed to reddit (or even ACX) where the fawning I refer to is more evident.

As for Richard Hanania I don't get a sense of the needle sharply in his favor here, that's interesting. I feel like I regularly see posts suggesting he either used to be reasonable but lost the plot, or is as wrong as he is right, i.e. he "has a few good points." I'm afraid I don't know the Jim you refer to; that's probably on me. I often feel like the guy at the party who came to the wrong house but stayed for the refreshments.

I read your post and this led me to then read Aella's. I don't know, the points made by others responding to you are valid--she was just a kid. She seems to have had a very messed up childhood and I feel for her. This doesn't change my mind about her--it is, in fact, exactly what I might have expected had I ever given it much thought. I have known women with backgrounds that are variations on the same violent/controlled theme, and they have all been, unfortunately, intolerable to me (and some themselves given to violence). Which is odd because I have had a savior complex most of my life (I'm using a popular term here, I don't know or particularly care what the psychological term is).

I've never been interested in finding out more about this woman. I don't wish her ill, but I find the terminally online male obsessive fawning over her a strange sign of the times. Not a good one.

I was just trying to lighten the mood. I certainly know many men who are divorced, some more than once, and some of them would be much, much wealthier now had they not been (or indeed, had they never married.) I realize my comment's humor, if it had any, would be at your expense, and for that I apologize.

I apologize for this poor source, but the only other one coming up is the WaPo which I would rather not link to directly because it annoys me.

RFK Jr's MAHA report seems to have at least 7 non-existent sources suggesting he (or someone involved) made use of an LLM and it hallucinated. This does not engender confidence.

Apparently now ended.

I sense a divorced man in our presence.

I think what rubs me the wrong way (a phrase of my mother's) is the default alternative to word salad writing was not even to native speaker, but to "white."

At least this is a rationale. I'd counter with the notion that the average person, white or not, probably can't write very well anyway. Twenty five years ago as a grad student I taught freshman composition, and the majority of my native-speaking students (almost entirely white) couldn't write their way out of a paper bag. Also dialects are legion even within the English language, and not as prominent in writing as speaking, in particularly phonological dialect. I can write "pen" and you read it in your own dialect, not realizing I'm imagining it pronounced "pin." Even lexically there aren't all that many terms in English used by native Indians that wouldn't be used by, say a British person* (e.g. "lift" for the proper term: elevator).

In any case I appreciate your having a stab at defending the position. I still think it's giving "whites" way too much generalized credit. Admittedly my experience with Indians has been with the highly educated.

*Let's say white British person.

I see you in my mind's eye doing the whole goddam set at once because to not would be p**sy. Don't interfere with my placing of the pedestal, just hop up on it.

This is an extrapolation but you're explaining for the person who posted, who made no caveats about "more expensive" white writers, just wrote "most whites" as if we are to believe whites (defined how I do not know) are somehow more talented as a whole at writing than ___. This kind of presumptuous comment jars and I concur with @ThomasdelVasto that it shouldn't be just left unquestioned.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: A hundred pull-ups is (are?) no joke. I can probably do 100 push-ups (though reading back through I see it's supposed to be twice that.) I can imagine a situation where I could do 300 squats. I can even run (though maybe not after all that pulling pushing squatting.) But 100 pull-ups. Put a gun to my head and I'd have to eat the bullet around 10. How do we get to the point of 100 pull-ups? Big strong men can be stymied by the pull-up because they're actually fatasses but strong. Wiry guys are put off because their arms just aren't strong enough (probably where I am). You have to be in some zone of badassery to do 100 pull-ups. Is this just me? Can everyone on the Motte do 100 pull-ups?

You're aware you're talking now to a woman? (not me, but she whom you called an old man), meaning @Gaashk

(I'm actually an old man.)

Since Japan has come up it might be my chance to introduce the concept of 枕営業or "makura eigyou." This term could be translated strictly as "pillow business" but in reality refers to the necessarily transactional nature of the mizu shoubai or "water trade" aka night life business such as hostess bars, etc.

Relevant to this discussion due to a 2015 case that made the news.. Essentially while long term infidelity is grounds for divorce, just sex with your friendly neighborhood hostess is not. At least not so in a way that would grant the wife a settlement. Why? Because our friendly neighborhood hostess (or whatever) works hard for the money, that's why. Just another part of the nightly grind. Sorry, wives and mothers in Japan, but at least dad was just paying for it and wasn't really in Luv.

Who says Japanese law is impenetrable? Well, I say that, but I suppose sometimes I'm wrong. All puns intended.

Clueless discourse and blathering is it. Well. I am trying to find your point, which seems to be, give up? Anyway all this talk makes me want to throw myself into a profile just to see what would happen, though I'm well out of the game.

Ah, nevermind. I was looking at the other thread. Did you xpost this on purpose?

Oddly, in the main thread of this I cannot see my reply to you nor your reply to me.

Current AI will routinely have crisp foreground and similar but blurred background --no doubt because it has been trained on such images (that, like this one, are real). The cleanup and lack of any granular detail here also looks AI, but that's probably just the usual digital airbrushing. My mistake.