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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
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Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
8d ago
Is it? It sounds like a recipe for disaster and abuse.
Because all you hear about (especially in leftier circles with all their sexual disfunctions and neuroses) are the horror stories. Friendships and meaningful platonic relationships across much wider age gaps are normal and healthy. The thing where everyone spends their first 22 years dealing with peers within 10 months of their own age is an extreme historical oddity.
My best friend is five years older. The relationship has a certain parity now, but we met when I was fourteen and other friends used to joke that he was basically my dad. But it was really helpful to have someone a life stage ahead around to offer advice and buy booze. Two of my other friends had similar relationships with guys from his friend group. It was almost a bootleg Big Brothers program.
Half my actual dad's golf buddies are my age. He's mentored a double handful of men even younger through AA.
I'm not saying your concerns are baseless, but having the group collectively treat her as a kid sister is reasonable and healthy for everyone. And if you just don't want to deal with that, that's fine too. I refuse to let my similarly aged daughter come to D&D because I want to crack jokes with my friends without being in Dad Mode.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
8d ago
I just think that a high school senior wanting to hang out with 30 year olds and vice versa is disturbing.
She doesn't want to hang out with 30 year olds. She wants to hang out with people playing this niche nerd game. Once when I was fifteen, I got into a car with a much older man that I had just met and allowed him to take me to a second location because the local game shop was closing and he offered us more D&D. I don't even remember the guy's name, but I remember the cleric I played.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
8d ago
To be fair, I was sampling from the most vocally leftist/progressive strata of Scottish society.
Mr. Human, our libtards are the same way. My only trip to Europe was during the height of Iraq War tensions. There were no issues, even when I was obviously culture shocked.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
15d ago
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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
16d ago
In 2026 they're often socialists who are mad that there are hierarchies that do not have them on top. In fairness, this was also the case for many of the "gaia worshippers" (watermelons).
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
16d ago
I don't think the baseline normie would openly admit, even pseudonymonously, that they would trade vaccines, central air and the internet for the power to rape chambermaids.
Each time I've had that conversation, it's been a similar path.
A. Capitalism fuels technical advancements that help everyone.
B. Those advancements only help the rich. They hoard them.
A. The newest tech may be gatekept by cost, but prices always come down. Even poor people in America have a level of physical comfort completely unavailable to a medieval lord.
B. But the lord still had more power! He had servants to make his life easy, that he would abuse and be horrible to.
A. The freaking Sun King shivered while a servant chipped at his frozen breakfast fruit because Versailles was impossible to heat with fireplaces. The average person on welfare in America can have fresh fruit at room temperature in the dead of winter.
B. That doesn't matter compared to the power over others!
Even if many normies would likely be at least mildly abusive with power, it takes a special kind of ideologue to openly talk about the power over others being an end in and of itself.
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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
In my time arguing on the internet, I've encountered a disturbing number of people who seem to think that having power over others is more desirable than any level of technological advancement. We have degrowth people IRL.
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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
We're taking it back!
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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
I'm not sure how meaningful that difference in. Imagine there's a conspiracy theory that Monsanto is doing eugenics by selectively adding sterilizing agents to food that goes to certain groups. The theory has a niche group of fervent supporters who push their belief in every way, but it also gets some more sanewashed radical support from very establishment figures. If someone who's social group is mostly Monsanto Files theorists goes and kills a VP of Monsanto, does it matter that he wasn't directly inspired by a specific person who could be blamed?
I just don't see why a general memetic environment couldn't also be responsible for stochastic attacks. It's not like we hold anyone responsible for violent rhetoric in other contexts beyond maybe some social censure.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
No, that's fair. I'm not trying to downplay your situation. I'm just saying that if you win, I don't think you'll have to be making explicit tradeoffs like "Well, she's dropped from a 9 to a 7, but I'll tolerate it for the two sons".
I do wish you the best of luck in your quest.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
will accept the tradeoffs to her personal appearance
It doesn't work like that. I mean, maybe you're the level of advanced autism where it does, but for a psychologically healthy man, you'll see those changes happen so continually and slowly that it'll barely even register. By the time you really notice she'll be the mother of your children and the reverence will come naturally.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
Cats? Those shameless, opportunist egomaniacs without a shred of loyalty?
I get that's the meme, but it really doesn't match my experience. In my experience, I drag a feral stray out of somewhere inconvenient, kidnap it, clean it, and then it showers my family with affection for 15 years, like a permanent, low-effort toddler that wants to snuggle and also kills vermin.
The allergenic ones?
This may be more of an issue. My condolences on your condition.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
This is why God gave us cats, so you could have a genuine meet-cute with a creature that will love you forever.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
I'm not sure who would even qualify as a person of clout in this context. But if that's a requirement for the term, then sure, cross him off the list. I was thinking that a widespread meme with lots of violent rhetoric that occasionally fissions off lone wolves would count.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
17d ago
The physical peak might be a large part of the issue there. Sub-Saharan Africans age faster. They hit most developmental milestones earlier than Europeans and start puberty, on average, a full year earlier. This can obviously give an advantage during the important developmental era of 12-16.
There's a gap where we do. Business/professional/formal clothing that isn't worth taking to a dry cleaners. But even then, most of my "business casual" attire is "wrinkle-free", and it only needs an ironing once every half-dozen wears. And dry cleaning is dirt cheap.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
18d ago
I have young employees making less than $20 per hour who probably spend $5k per year on Doordash Wendys and shit.
I think there is a disconnect where some people just entering the workforce expect to treat their entire income as "disposable fun money" while still enjoying the amenities and lifestyle afforded by their parents 30 years of accumulating equity.
I got that talk by an uncle who was an engineer. When I knew him, he was a stately, well-off older gay man with significant assets and investments. But he told me that he got that way because he woke up hungover a few years into his career, and had a crisis about the fact that he hadn't saved up any kind of a buffer or nest egg. He'd just been spending his whole paycheck on partying.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
18d ago
I actually think Tyler Robinson is likely a fair example of stochastic terrorism. I have not followed the early trial leaks, but there were a lot of signs pointing to him being radicalized by "trans genocide" rhetoric on Discord.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
18d ago
This is how I feel on keto. Even just a couple of days with very low carbs and no sugar takes me from "3/4 of a pizza" guy to "did I remember to eat once today, or twice?"
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
21d ago
Yes, the reason you assume so is extremely hierarchical, amoral and anti-aesthetic priors of your psychology, pure lustful brownshirt orientation towards power and impunity. The same reason makes you a Trump supporter to begin with, and incapable of understanding principled disgust.
Well, that psychologizing is about as off-base as possible. Fun verbiage though, makes me want to go reread some Ayn Rand.
I have not
TY for the straight answer.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
22d ago
This is the exchange I had in mind when saying that. Read Shakes post above, too. Both are forcefully arguing for their position. I see several times where Shakes acknowledges points for the other side. I note zero where Dase does.
FWIW, I think Dase is generally very smart and knowledgeable (I've nommed him for AAQQ within the last month), which is why it sticks out to me when he slips into "China rules, America drools" mode. I would love to see him give a decoupled take on some part of the Chinese system, because I expect he really does have a better vantage point than pretty much anyone else I have access to.
But we all have topics that are hard to discuss with a proper detachment.
Also where did you get the idea that Dase was living in China? Since many of your comments appear to imply he currently does, I'd like to see where that was indicated.
Comments he made a while ago, I'm not going to try to dig them up. I definitely remember he dipped out of Russia the moment they invaded Ukraine, and mentioned landing in Turkey while he figured out his next move. But I've alternated heavy posting and blocking myself to just lurking over the last few years. I am pretty sure he said something about finding a more permanent spot for himself in the Chinese AI/ML ecosystem at some point, but that's why I keep phrasing it as half a question.
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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
22d ago
Is there anyone you think would take that lesson to heart, who didn't already after Libya?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
22d ago
Given the kind of patriotic preening Shakes routinely engages in
Which is still vastly more self-aware and humble than what Daes engages in on this topic, or what we see from the "America lost" faction. My god, it's like the Black Knight from Monty Python.
considering the brainrotted knee-jerk condemnation of everything China that you
I actually rather like China. I don't trust them as a nation, but I do have a certain fondness. I just don't take it seriously when someone does, er, literally exactly what you're accusing Shakes of doing - shameless, jingoistic boosterism that doesn't even try to make a serious analysis of their situation. Which is easy because of how opaque they are, compared to the ten million words we spill on this forum alone wrangling over the issues and struggles America is facing, based on enormous quantities of reasonably transparent data and reporting.
It's almost as if US hawks have no barometer for how insane they look to the rest of the world
Because it comes off as projection. Screaming "America lost" when what you actually mean is something more like "Iran is still holding on while their military and economy are in shambles after a few months of casual love taps, and this is arguably a failure to attain all strategic goals of the war" sounds genuinely insane. It sounds like you're trying to manifest a conclusion via sheer memery, rather than making any effort to understand - particularly when even the most jingoistic Americans (Shakes) are making meaningful admissions.
It just comes off as shameless, low-trust rhetoric, like watching some underclass defectbot try to scam a quokka.
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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
22d ago
There's a reason I assume he's trying to ingratiate himself with his new overlords. Legit sounds like a classier translation of racist xanxia slop.
We should be demanding the same level of shamelessness from our own immigrants.
Yes. If the DM needs to communicate information to exactly one player, stepping into another room is the easiest way. We sometimes DM on Discord instead, if it's just a quick note.
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