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				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I don't see how that counters my position at all.  I didn't say Trump's Boomer Common Sense was infallible, just that it's a more reliable predictor his actions than "cartoon super genius" or "cartoon baby villain".


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


While it was psychologically important for Trump to negotiate a better deal with Iran than Obama's deal, he will not sacrifice his presidency on the alter of keeping Iran from having nukes.




I honestly think he would, under my "Boomer Common Sense" model of Trump.  "Sacrificing the presidency" is talk for nerds writing papers in college.  It's entirely the wrong framing.  Do you, or do you not, act to stop an avowed mortal enemy that is currently much weaker than you from getting the city-destroying superweapon?


Yeah.  Duh.  Common fucking sense.  Even arguing about it is the province of bloodless dorks and proof of why they should never have any real power.


I understand that framing may be difficult to process for someone who has contorted themselves into pretending that "Western leaders" have only come to disdain Trump since Iran, but I think it explains his actions much better than either the "8-D Chess" stuff MAGA used to argue or  whatever iteration of "screaming chicken dumb dumb poopy pants" projection that the libs are on these days.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


whether your claim is that this constituted my consent "in sound mind" for said friend to horse-tranquilizer me, call his buddies to gang-rape me, then brag and make fun of me after.




Rephrase as "offer me a party drug and ask if I want to have group sex with some guys whom I've already had group sex with".


Let me ask a slightly different question.  Let's say a friend invites me to Gay Halloween.  Imagine I go and get shitfaced.  At someone point someone asks me if I want to try a fun party drug.  Sometime after that, some real gay shit happens.


I honestly don't think anyone in the world would have any sympathy for me.  I think most of the women who are outraged about Cornell would laugh and call me a suppressed faggot.




I'm processing this case as Doe thinking she was in #2 and was willing to forgive/comfort the offenders for the harm of that night; then found she was actually in #3 and got mad. It sounds like you might think it was #1 and that she was an absolute idiot to click the link, but then isn't the conclusion "Girls, treat all men like Nigerian scammers, even the ones you think are your friends"?




Many of the scams these days involve a high degree of investment and emotional manipulation.  I have a friend whose mother keeps trying to send money to her boyfriend, Keanu Reeves, who she regularly meets and falls in love with online.  I know another guy who met and fell in love (online) with the daughter of a Congolese mining magnate, and he only needed to send her $10k to cover the customs fees so she could ship back a trunk of gold for them to build their lives together.


As a person in the real world, you do in fact have an obligation to be wary about who you trust.  It sucks.  It's life.  My own daughter is going to college soon, and I've tried to arm her with a mix of fun and horror stories.  "Drinking with friends is fun.  I've also seen people make terrible, humiliating, and/or life-ruining decisions while drunk at college.  Be smart, be wise, know your limits, and don't trust anyone telling you that all that matters is that something feels good."


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Oh, so you think that if he doesn't consider himself an American, then he's not? Interesting. Do people get to pick whatever citizenship they want, now? Does this mean that someone who does consider himself an American is?




You have this backwards.  Hasan not considering himself an American isn't a positive point of evidence, it's counter-evidence (and a damning finisher) against the Propositional Nation position.


And yes, that's the fundamental absurdity.  He's legally an American, yet clearly holds no bonds of brotherhood and fellowship for the rest of us.  Instead, his true tribe is co-ethnics and co-religionists from the other side of the world, to the point where he was willing to commit mass murder about it.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
In the very funny fanfic Seventh Horcrux there's a recurring bit where characters reference Voldemort's horrifying agenda of blood and terror "... except for the Werewolf Rights Act, that was very progressive, and...


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
They mix blanks in with the real ones.  I'd always heard there was only one actual bullet, but trying to read up on it, that may be a myth.  Funnily, the reason I was checking was because my daughter thought it was 10 guys just mag dumping into some prisoner with automatics, which is a darkly hilarious mental image.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
In the Western scenario, the villain wouldn't have been saved by prompt medical treatment to survive as a cripple in the first place.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


As Foucault points out, this will make people sympathetic to the condemned.




Foucault?  The pedophile?  I suppose it's understandable why he would feel sympathy for the vile.  For the normies, it's a perfect opportunity to ruin their overdeveloped sense of sympathy.  Preface and accompany the execution with a ruthless description of the harm he caused.  The man murdered a pregnant woman while she was begging for the life of her baby.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I suppose the point could be considered the best kind of correct.  The lack of permanence seems to be to be such a critical differentiator that the comparison to America loses any use.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Is it even theoretically possible to falsify a claim like that?  I am unaware of any other circumstances in which memory of an event gets better over time.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Sorry, I might be mixing them up with some other ME state, but is Dubai the one where people are admitted to labor under borderline slavery conditions with no rights, no benefits, and no possible path to permanent residence?  I can see why Caplan might find that admirable.  I doubt many Americans would.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The only mention of Singapore in the Wiki article on Open Borders:




"Many countries, including Canada and Singapore, will admit wealthy immigrants who can demonstrate an intention and capacity to invest in the country."




Dubai does not appear at all, and the AI summaries suggest they have unremarkable border control policies.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Sure.  MeToo was about rich men raping women in dark offices after hours.  They're not Harvey Weinstein.  Do colleges no longer have a freshman orientation about "Consent and Accepting Trans People"?  Followed by an invitation to an MLM sex-toy event?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Well, kudos on the bare minimal acknowledgement of trade-offs and second order consequences as a concept.


But why do you think you know which is easy, and which is right?  Not enforcing a border is easy.  Tolerating infinite welfare fraud is easy.  Printing more money to fund infinite welfare fraud so it can be sent abroad to fund extremist and terrorist groups is easy.  Caving to every pity-party and crying liberal woman and naked, bad faith emotional manipulation is easy.


That doesn't mean it's right.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Speaking as someone who called himself a libertarian for 20 years, the logic was always:


    

  1. Open Borders
    2. 

  2. Welfare State
    3. 

  3. Functional Economy.
    4. 



Pick two.  Option number 2 is essentially non-negotiable at this point, and absolutely no one has even the faintest glimmer of a fantasy of a plan to actually address it, which means adding option 1 necessarily closes off option 3.  Any libertarian failing to grasp this, at this point, is just a retard or engaged in enemy action.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


This does sound like most progressives to me. It also sounds like most everyone else to me. Do you think progressives are unique in this?




Uniquely blatant.  Most people do that to some degree or other, but most people also feel some discomfort when they do it.  There's an unease, a vague awareness that they're doing something wrong, that they're actually losing.  To the extent that I think I'm pretty good about that sort of thing, it's because that feeling of unease hits hard, and makes me feel nervous and paranoid, like I've forgotten a project due tomorrow.  I suspect something similar affects many of the people who end up on The Motte.


A lot of progressives/leftists seem to just not give a fuck.  I think it's partially downstream from the Primacy of Consciousness that fills so much leftist/progressive epistemology.  What is reality anyway, man?  Reality is in the eye of the beholder, it's all in your head and words anyway, so why not reject your words and assert my own?  The more charitable angle is a kind of faith in institutions.  Sure, I might not have an answer to your facts, but some professor somewhere does, for sure, and they'll prove me right.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Also, didn't the old stuff end up rotting after a few years?  You don't need to build athletic shoes to last forever when they're going to be worn out in 6 months or a year.  But you can't keep the interest of a collector community when the collections literally falls to pieces in half a decade.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Traditionalists say the basic unit of "society" is the family; "hippies" say the tribe; no one says the individual.




Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Sorry.  I didn't save anything and I don't know how to slip past search enslopification anymore.  If I stumble across it again, I'll share.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Based on September polling.  Which, last cycle in some of those important states, undershot Republican performance by 6-12%.


But who knows.  Maybe this will finally be the election where the polling was accurate and not a targeted psyop to demoralize GOP voters understandably and accidentally mistaken all the time in the exact same direction.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
There are purportedly videos of her, now that her name and socials have leaked, showing that she looked pretty jacked for a woman.  One of the fun speculations I've heard is that she was on T supplements for athletic/training reasons, and that's why she had a sex drive to fuck multiple frat boys into dry-heaving catatonia.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Foreseeable to you, the adult, worldly motte-poster.  To a 20 year old raised in an environment of sex-positive, "sex is just about feeling good and nothing else" consent feminism?  The girl herself seems to have thought she was doing something brave and good.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 5, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


But after that, they started texting each other about "free pussy."




Was there more than just the one guy saying that in one text?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of September 28, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
If we're doing pure physiognomy, Talarico looks like the physical vessel of an evil spirit.  Something about the eyes.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of September 28, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
AIUI, she went to the police 2-3 weeks later.  In between, she purportedly texted with some of the guys involved, planning the next threesome and saying that the people slut-shaming her were just jealous, that this was just what modern liberated women were like and it was going to become more normalized.


Then the frat president (I think the same guy who tried to shut down the events the night in question) told her she wasn't allowed to come to the Halloween party and then she went to the police to claim rape.