Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
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Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
Still, and maybe this is just nitpicking, I think there is a difference between thinking he was a bad person (who the world is better off without) and celebrating his death. In your own account, you say they call him out for his right-wing positions, but these "impliciations" are dicier and usually requires some level of psychologisation of your interlocutor.
You are a bad person and the world would be better off if you were shot.
When you read that statement, does it feel like a calm acknowledgement of detached utilitarian calculus?
Or does it feel like a threat?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
"Don't assume consensus or enforce what you believe to be consensus."
This is basically how the rule is interpreted in practice. Don't assume your controversial, far-from-universal position is universal and then begin reasoning from there.
The examples you listed here:
"I think people should believe...", "I think many people believe...", "I observe people acting like..."
Are all totally fine because they're phrased as beliefs specific to the writer. In general, much more leeway is offered to statements hedged with "I think that..."
I think this is a straightforwardly good rule
Gets a lot of leeway.
This is a straightforwardly good rule
Gets more scrutiny
Given that all sane people know that this is a straightforwardly good rule
Veers into consensus-building.
And worse of all is when you're doing #3, but only by implication because you take consensus as so baked-in that it doesn't even appear to occur to you that some people might disagree.
I do not think that "Biden had dementia which made him an unappealing candidate" was a particularly Democratic party line. It was basically the consensus reality. Anyone who pushes back against people trying to make our collective map of reality worse is doing god's work.
I think this is overly charitable. The Democratic Party Line up until halfway through the debate was "This is the best Biden has ever been and any suggestions or "video evidence" otherwise are cheap fakes from that liar Trump."
Then the debate happened, and the extent of Biden's decline was at last laid bare before the voting populace, and the movers and shakers in the party acknowledged his dementia just long enough to force him out of the race and replace with Kamala in a Hail Mary effort to not get destroyed down-ballot.
After which the party line flipped to something like "OMG, why are you even talking about this? Who care who was running the country, or how many people told how many lies about it? Trump is old, too!"
The real problem with KJP is that she is still talking about it, and she's not even remotely smart enough to thread the needle of lies there. Quite possibly no one is. Biden's overall situation is bad enough that it ought to be a crippling scandal for the party, and the Democrat Party Line is to simply brazen through on sheer shamelessness, an important part of which is simply pretending it never happened. Writing a book and putting it back into the news cycle because KJP is a sub-midwit who is just blindly following the formula without reading the room, is counter productive to this tactic.
Compare that to Jake Tapper's book on the topic (As an aside, I'm going to need either him or James Clapper to drop out of relevance forever. I'm sick of getting them mixed up because their names rhyme.) Tapper's book was utterly, shamelessly retarded and disingenuous. But it served the purpose of providing a fig leaf for the "Democrat operative with a chyron" media and the Democrat party to pretend they had no role in the scandal and sweep it all under a rug. It let them pull the "We've been over this, it's old news, MoveOn.org" rhetorical trick.
I'd say no one with a brain believed it, but there are plenty of people even here who get very upset about Trump's cheating fuckboy relationship with the truth who seem to mostly not care who was actually running the country for the Biden years, and certainly haven't updated on the degree of known dishonesty that was clearly involved among functionally all high ranking Democrats.
Which brings us back to the real problem with KJP. She gave me a platform and excuse to hammer all that home again, really rub everyone noses in the reminder that Biden's dementia was a scandal a thousand times worse than Watergate, and that anyone who doesn't write off most of the DNC doesn't get to pretend to care about truth and norms ever again. And she did this not just while failing to provide any useful rhetorical chaff, but while making the situation actively worse and also reminding everyone about the consequences of DEI hires.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
How much of his viewership is voting-aged American citizens?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
I was going to recommend Valheim because it can be super slow. Building is an intricate and careful process.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
Mr. President, we must not allow a retard gap!
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
I suppose that most men would prefer to be the generally senior partner in the relationship
This is backwards, imo. The problem is that most women lose all respect for us if we're not. Riffing off what the other guy said, women are still evolved to expect men to take charge of most of that physical reality and survival and stuff. Except now the mechanisms for those things are heavily feminized bureaucracy so it seems natural to let the women take the lead on it and they utterly fucking hate doing it because if they are taking care of and being responsible for something, that means it is a baby.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
The fastest way one loses their judicial career is denying a motion in a DV case and have the offender then kill the victim the next time around.
Perhaps that should be extended to judges who let violent criminals out on no cash bail.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
Stand Your Ground is something I generally still support, but my mind could be changed if simple Bad Neigbor fights end up with more orphans.
They take this angle only after their actual prediction, a massive spike in murders didn't happen.
Well, it did, but not because of carry laws and Stand Your Ground. It happened because of BLM and pro-crime policies from people who want to use the state against normal gun owners.
So now they're reduced to mendicious phrasings to scaremonger about an increase in "citizens defending themselves from violent, crazy drug addicts". Literally their own second example is a methhead with a history of violence and a chainsaw acting aggressive.
However much you hate journalists, you don't hate journalists enough.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
You mean a butter bar?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
and the marginal senators who would be needed to get the thing through the Senate.
Who can forget the Lousiana Purchase and the Cornhusker Kickback?
Man, we used to have great names for these things. Now everything is just -gate. We used to be a country.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
It's more about bargaining position and how much respect is due to Zelensky. He's a debtor here to beg after his nation's corrupt bullshit caused us (Trump) internal problems; letting him show up in the outfit of a heroic frontline operator sets a very different tone for the discussion.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
I kind of hate to use this example, but EY nailed this dynamic in MoR with the clerk who was happy to enforce petty tyranny on the heroes, because they were heroic and would not retaliate, but careful to show respect and deference to the villains because they would retaliate viciously to disrespect. Frankly, I don't feel like Europe and Canada have acted like allies for a long time. They rather act like freeloading "friends" who hate us specifically because we do most of the work and pick up the tab all the time and they can't forgive us for it.
Many such cases!
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
No one will see the poor rambling, but the most glowing and positive 15 seconds will be on every morning show and news network.
Also, you'd have to listen to Hakeen Jeffries talk.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1mo ago
IIRC, the issue was that the bill originated in the wrong half of the legislature, because the Democrats took a previous passed bill, replaced the name and the entire text, and then pushed it forward like it had already passed in the House once. Then Roberts waived that UNCONSTITUTIONAL NORM SHATTERING POWER GRAB FASCISM by saying that a tax increase wasn't a tax increase because please stop making me make hard decisions.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
Didn't he get outed for applying to colleges as black?
But yeah, the dude could openly say "9/11 was great and I'm going to do it again" and win large portions of NYC immigrants and Democrats.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
It's not complicated. Taylor Lorenz is just a shameless liar who knows that her followers never actually check source material. How many of them still think Rittenhouse opened fire on a peaceful crowd and killed three harmless black people? Piker is probably the biggest leftist streamer with serious support from Twitch, which refuses to ban him no matter what he does. Getting him canceled (or arrested, using a shock collar to force an animal to perform is apparently a crime in California) would be a blow to the cause of champagne socialism. Just so, Lorenz would tell you the sky was water if it helped her political faction.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
If you think you know where Wall Street is going to relocate, and you have the money for property investments...
Or you just hate NYC and want to get the finance industry the hell out.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
You may be part of a problem... but it's not this particular problem, unless you're one of the people running the scam.
The real question is, what do you want to do about it? You've mentioned that you're flirting with Fuck You money. Have you weighed the merits of reaching out to DOGE, or some other, better choice?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
I have a woman who works for me (Well, for GloboCorp. I'm her manager.) 30yo single mom of two. The state provides her and her kids with free healthcare, Section 8 housing assistance, and more besides. Her kids go to school in one town, do sports in another, and she talks about moving their school district based on petty annoyances. Residency requirements are not a problem because she has told me that you can just lie on them. She was hired as a full-timer, but is down to 15ish hours per week due to latenesses and shrinking availability and callouts. She was actively scouted for promotions at one point (DEI considerations were involved), but she has no interest because making more money might impact how much she collects in transfers from the government. She takes two vacations a year, one usually international.
You're not wrong that she is less of a societal problem than some violent thug committing violent crimes.
But there's a similar theme of standards at play for the both of them. A huge part of the problem with crime is that too many people are sympathetic to the criminals. They believe it would be mean to judge someone just for being a feral rapist. And how many people have ever openly judged my employee for using the system like that? None, of course. We more functional citizens maintain a facade of social equality, no matter how many years we spend watching a perfectly healthy person decline to do more than the barest minimum, because doing more would cut into her TikTok time.
I hit my lowest point fifteen years ago. I dropped out of college after my girlfriend "accidentally" got pregnant to take a construction job with my dad. That was during the GFC, so all the construction work fueled by cheap, bad mortgages dried up until he had no work to offer me. I was getting windmill slammed by male post-partum depression and flirting with total personality collapse (What the fuck even am I if I'm not The Smart Guy? Smart Guys go to college. I'm not in college. What the fuck even am I?). And there came a day when the mother of my children brought me to a government office to apply for welfare.
And that moment, seared into my memory, of sitting in a cubicle while a nice man in business casual asked if I knew how to read... That was the single most humiliating moment of my life. If I hadn't had an infant child I would have preferred to just kill myself. It was so bad it broke through the depression and sparked enough agency to go get a job, any job, no matter how shit. Because a complete downward revision of my life expectations was still preferable to that.
What would my life be like if I hadn't suffered the sin of pride? What would my children's lives be like? How easy would it be to just slip into the permanent underclass? It looks like our society makes that pretty damn easy.
Maybe we should add more friction. Maybe we should hold people to a higher standard. Maybe we should spit at criminals and sneer at welfare recipients, and then do the same to their retarded gentle-hearted defenders.
Maybe we're not being "manipulated to hate".
Maybe we're being reminded to have some basic fucking standards.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
They required women to submit photo ID. The geo-tagged ID photos was the important part of what leaked because it allowed men to see the faces and weight of the women being judgmental.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
In my view it's precisely because this would be complex that Trump supporters would be fine with it. Anyone opposed could be cast as a lame nerd quibbling over boring legal language.
I'd be fine with it for the exact same reason I've never heard a Democrat get all high dudgeon at the suggestion that Michelle Obama run when everyone and their dog knows who would actually be executive.
Leaders I like having power is a good thing, actually.
But if progressives and "centrists" want to cite the Constitution about it, then they have a half-century edifice of utilitarian jurisprudence to exorcise before they get to be taken seriously in those concerns.
More realistically, I'm 99.9% sure that nothing like this is going to happen. Trump is not the dictator that idiots think he is. He does not value hard power for it's own sake, or he would have gone into politics 50 years earlier.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
Yes, exactly. Because they don't have a model of the internal differences between men and women that makes it glaringly obvious that the autistic, extremist shitposter who never, ever tries to draw attention to themselves in a personal/appearance way is obviously a man. They don't have the trad wisdom that there are no girls on the internet. So they see the trivially faked pfp and assume there is a non-zero number of actual women like that.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2mo ago
Is there no truth value in pointing out philosophical incoherence? Free pass on that, ends justify the means?
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