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TBBT is declasse slop playing to tired stereotypes, unlike the heckin' progressive and intellectual Parks and Rec.
but if you take an objective look at the party itself, it's absurd. The party chairman is a white guy. The most recent president was a white guy. All across the country, at all levels of government, there are white guys in elected positions as Democrats, and there are plenty more who were nominated by the party and lost.
No, this fits exactly with my beliefs on the matter. It was Darwin (who is likely OP) who clarified the matter for me. It was a post long ago, and he was being grilled about why his extremely progressive beliefs didn't compel him to offer his own well-paying job to an equally deserving woman or minority. And his response was annoyed bewilderment that these autistic nerds kept trying to actually apply the ideology consistently. Didn't they understand that it was just a manipulation? You're not supposed to actually suffer for it, you're supposed to make rivals suffer for it. Joe Biden doesn't give a fuck about black people, he's just shameless enough to use them as a weapon against Mitt Romney.
White Democrat men are like the pick-mes of the Democrat Party. They talk the talk specifically to sabotage other white guys and surround themselves with less competent identity people who are less of a threat to their striving and status.
These do not come off as the actions of a party that is hostile to white men.
No, it totally does. They are very open about projecting believing that everyone else is super, super racist, and will never vote for or support non-whites. Kamala Harris literally just said that this exact logic was why she passed over her preferred VP pick!
and there's certainly a brand of lefty that is hostile to white men, and, as I've been saying for years, the influence of this kind of person among normie Democrats is wildly overstated by people
Nah, we've had this argument and it isn't plausible. 90%+ of Democrat politicians and leaders are openly misandrist (even if they are male themselves). There's a tiny handful of influencers trying to triangulate their way around that, timidly suggesting that maybe more Gen Z men would support Dems if the Dems spent less time actively shitting on them, and those influencers were themselves mean girls ganged into submission.
It would help if you, pseudonymynous poster, gave an example of something you acknowledge as "evil on your own side" and said that it is bad, as an existence proof. This would earn you credibility on this topic, which you currently lack.
Sort of like the fairly highly upvoted post I made here calling neonazis "contemptible retards".
Evidently we can't call these people Nazis because the term's become meaningless
No, the problem is that you lose all the oomph when you also use that word for anyone who works out and doesn't hate themselves. It's archetypal motte and bailey arguing. Wanting to kill all the Jews is terrible, but also insanely fringe. Working out is much, much more common, so by tactically conflating the two, you can pretend that the number of people who want to kill all the Jews is much larger.
Meanwhile, a third of the left is over there chanting "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be Arab".
Nah, this was a shit post and it generated way more thoughtful discussion than it, or OP, deserved. OP brought zero respect, light, or thoughtfulness to the table, just pure culture warring, and this forum is worse off for having it here.
an example of someone who got pushed away.
I'm glad to see the right is ousting nazis like Richard Hanania. Shame on you for citing him so credulously, but that makes him a problem for your side now.
Glad that's established.
There appears to be about 1,000-10,000 pro-Hamas left for every neonazi on the right, with vastly more institutional support. The left has rising star politicians that refuse to condemn Hamas, and strongly hint at open support. Their controlled institutions, like the unviersities, openly support and coddle Hamas partisans. Their biggest influencers, like Hasan Piker, openly support the mass murder of Jews and cheer on literal, organizationally-continuous-from-the-1930's NDSAP allies.
So do you agree that the left has ten thousand times the nazi problem that the right does, right? Or are you engaging in some sort of Terryology math?
Hanania is not an "established rightwinger". He's a purportedly recovered racist troll whose whole schtick is leveraging his experience as being a shitstain of a person to shit-talk the right in exchange for goodboy grifter points from the left.
I somehow forgot about that. I think I saw a bunch of posts about dog training in the firehose feed first, and maybe missed the top-level. But that drives home my point - your post was about Hasan, not using it as a massive leaping off point to tar an entire political party.
That said, one person's "ragebait" is another person's outside-the-local-overton-window argument.
I expect that a post consisting of four twitter links and a "doesn't this prove all my outgroup are just the worst?" would invite a warning for being obviously boo outgroup antagonism. Like, I can imagine a post talking about Hasan Piker's scandal over torturing his dog and how doesn't this prove Democrats have a psychopath problem? But I can't imagine the community norm thinking that was a good faith contribution.
Failing to engage in good faith is another matter
More concerned about this as a consistent pattern. If it's on the radar, I'm happy enough.
Hey, while you're here I'd like to gesture vaguely in the direction of this entire thread. It's actually pretty well constructed ragebait, slinking right under the rules. I admit I got baited. There's been an uptick in this recently, entirely from two posters, and they seem to be refining the schtick. If this kind of post (especially with the grade of replies from OP) is going to fly, then I expect we'll rapidly descend into just a pure shitflinging forum. FFS, most of the OP is just links to twitter posts.
Is there a single line here that seems intended to shed light, instead of generate heat?
He was briefly one of the most prominent Indian people in American showbiz, which was important because the actual most prominent Indian guy was Raj from the Big Bang Theory.
It's been made very clear over the last few years that when leftists say "Nazi", they mean a family with a mom and dad who love each other and their kids, people who work out, people who are attractive and successful, people who are mentally healthy, who aren't unhinged neurotic messes and people who don't hate themselves for no reason.
Why, what did you think that word meant?
So with all this recent controversy, how big of a Nazi problem is actually festering
Pretty bad, but Trump is trying to deport the ones he can. Feel sorry for the Jews in NYC though. I can't imagine how emboldened they'll be with Mayor Zohran.
why do the Nazis seem to feel so comfortable in modern conservativism?
They mostly seem to pretend to be progressive, because that where the ethnonationalism they feel comfortable with is.
Sorry, you were talking about Hamasniks, right? The organization founded by Nazi allies and Hitler admirers, who are carrying on the work of Final Solution to this day?
Also, this Richard Hanania fellow sounds extremely vile given how comfortable he's admitted to being around shocking Nazi rhetoric. Didn't I just see something about him supporting the sexual assault of children, too? Sorry, I would check his substack, but I don't want to go to a place with that sort of vile rhetoric. Perhaps one of our resident leftwingers who love citing this odious monster can check for me?
You have to be trolling, right? This is the most naked and shameless call for a double standard I've ever seen.
Everything you just said also applies to you. If morality is not tit-for-tat, then you still have an obligation to police your own side. And you don't even engage with the concept! Just slide right past it and press the attack. It's like you're brain damaged, or suffering some kind fo anti-memetic effect.
Or just egregiously obnoxious.
Discord chat is conversation. It's not like these were published essays, or even top level The Motte posts.
It's especially hilarious because they do show trashy, low class, black-coded people and every one of them is a wigger and it's still as cringy and lame as a white principal trying to "rap with these kids" in 1990 because not a single person involved in the production has ever had a five minute conversation with a black person who did not have a college degree.
Your brothers are crazy and I've never seen a single indication that you even think it's a problem. You just engage in pure "arguments as soldiers" arguing.
But by all means, show us the way. Demonstrate some policing of your own side.
And that rhetoric has, in fact, recieved an enormous amount of lattitude, to the point where it's users can't even recognize a moment (say, immediately after a political assassination driven by said rhetoric) to settle down and have an ounce of respect.
Though I guess I can understand why leftwingers would assume this was water-testing for literal violence - it's what they do, after all.
A missed element of this discussion is that some people are lambasting these young men for just using the lingo they grew up with. Why are our progressive friends so full of hostility for other cultures? Do they just hate black people? Is there anything in those chats that isn't weak and mild compared to an all time hip-hop banger? (Appologies in advance for scaring the hoes and Will Stancil).
Milo at least is saying there were zero hard-rs. He is very disappointed in these young men.
So we can safely assume that anyone who's ever been in the vicinity of an "eat the rich" joke in private is just itching for some cannibalistic Stalinism?
Will you be calling for AOC to be censured and removed from congress?
"Let's elect the most leftwing candidate we can."
"Great, so Stalin then?"
Does rephrasing it that way help you understand the joke, or are you going to go down with the USS Waging The Culture War?
I think you missed the part above where I said this is lame because of how tame it is. These people are nerds. And the only thing I find lamer is pretending that this is horrible as a way to score political points.
To be fair, I don't think many left-wingers have these spaces. Just toxic longhouse cesspits where no irreverence is permitted because that would release tension and distract from the seething Twenty-Four Hour Hates. That's why places like Chapo and CumTown were so important.

I love the people who yell at Kulak "That's a man, baby!" like they've uncovered some cunning plot. That shit must go so hard if you think wrestling is real.
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