Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
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Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
6hr ago
There's a very large difference between "lock her up" and "lock them all up and be grateful we aren't having them all industrially executed". Particularly when the "her" in question is someone who has been accused of criminal offenses for decades at that point - note that Trump didn't call to lock up Harris. The irony is that Hilary and Bill Clinton might be closer to jail now after being held in contempt over their refusal to testify regarding Jeffrey Epstein.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2d ago
Huh, looks like you're mostly right, though the sources I see to double check seem to suggest that she was mostly opposed to abortion because of the high level of danger to the mother.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
3d ago
You were probably member of temporarily impoverished upper class.
Makes me think of Hasan Piker, who appears to think that he grew up basically working class because his family was briefly of such diminished means that he was reduced to hiring the services of a second rate riding instructor.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
3d ago
And Ayn Rand.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
3d ago
Hmm? I don't mean to accuse you of burying the lede, but the most prominent example of eugenics in living memory would be the Nazis.
Yes, that's literally the example I was talking about. Progressives in charge of American Eugenics organizations in the early 30's had very kind words to say about the "fine Mr. Hitler" for finally being willing to try to implement "sterilize all the bad people" on a national level. Then of course, things went a little off the rails, to put it lightly. The right/left divide was... weirder back then. A couple years after that, leftist propogandists were all but begging the US to not get involved in Europe and just let the Nazis and Soviets conquer the place, please bro, remember how much the trenches in WW1 sucked, just stay out. And then Hitler betrayed Stalin, broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and those same propogandists literally had their anti-war books and records recalled to be replaced with paeans to the glory of battle.
But for the overall point, imagine if you believed in HBD and that it was scientifically possible to selectively breed humans just like any other animal and also had a powerful technocratic impulse to run roughshod over democracy and liberty in favor of expert-driven perfection of the masses.
My thesis is that if many progressives allowed themselves to really accept that dumb, violent people have dumb, violent kids, then the same impulse that drives them to ban plastic straws would drive them to support mass sterilization campaigns - rather like it did the last time they considered HBD fit for consideration.
OTOH, they might actually support killing criminals again, so there'd possibly be some upside.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
3d ago
I'm more familiar with the south of the state, where "township" basically means "town with a lot of woods".
Bloomfield, NJ is also real but lacks a subway,
I tried to look that up, and it seems like they might have a stop on one of the Newark feeder lines. I don't really think that counts, but my experience with north Jersey public transit is pretty limited, so I wasn't willing to definitively count it out.
Also, a township of 50k is a bit weak to be calling a "city" anyway.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
3d ago
We’ve engaged in a concerted propaganda campaign for decades suggesting that because moral equality is mandatory, biological identity must also be mandatory. This makes it practically unthinkable to consider that it’s perfectly possible to construct a political system that grants equal rights to all citizens while acknowledging that not everyone can visualize a rotating 3D cube with equal fidelity. But biting that bullet feels dangerous to many. It feels like opening the door to old aristocracies. So instead, we pretend the differences don't exist, which inadvertently creates a new aristocracy of "people who know the right shibboleths."
It's much more terrifying than that. There were two rough branches of the old eugenics movement, American and European. The European school of thought was that to get more quality people, those people should have more children. Deliberately breed your best specimens to get better.
The American school, OTOH, was more concerned with raising the floor by culling the lowest quality people. Ergo, Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood, inspired by the simple notion that if all the black people have abortions, then in a generation or two there just won't be any more black people. Trawling through American history, you'll occasionally stumble across references like "during this decade, the state of X sterilized 50,000 people, mostly the indigent and feeble-minded". This culminated in the 30's when American progressive eugenicists were quite proud to announce that finally a world leader had embraced the obvious logic of their approach to the selective breeding on the animal Man for the improvement of all society - and I'm sure you can guess who they were talking about, and how quickly they all distanced themselves from those positions and claims after 1945.
Basically, leftists have a cognitohazard blind spot on this topic because if they allow themselves to even consider biological inequality then the superstructure of their belief system goes right back to the stuff of nightmares.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
4d ago
The key word that twigged me there was "subway". Are there any places with both subways and Republican mayors? That actually seems like a good question for an LLM.
The Bing default search AI summary completely shit the bed:
The last five Republican mayors of American cities with subways are: Richard Riordan (Los Angeles, 1993-2001). Jean Stothert (Pittsburgh, 2013-2021). Corey O’Connor (Pittsburgh, 2021). Mike Mergner Bloomfield (Bloomfield, New Jersey, 2024). David Bronson (Anchorage, Alaska, 2024).
Richard Riordan is real, but Pittsburg has not had a Republican mayor since 1934. Mike Mergner Bloomfield seems to have been entirely hallucinated (hilariously so - "Yeah, the last Republican mayor was old Johnny CityName). Jean Stothert was the Republican mayor of Omaha, Nebraska. Corey O'Connor is the mayor of Pittsburgh, but he took office last week, not 2021, and is a Democrat. David Bronson is real. 3/5 fake answers.
Copilot did better, listing
- Michael Bloomberg - NYC
- Ralph Perk - Cleveland (1971-1977)
- Bernard Samuel - Philadelphia (1941-1952)
- William Hale “Big Bill” Thompson — Chicago (1915–1923, 1927–1931)
- Malcolm Nichols — Boston (1926–1930)
All of whom seem to be real.
Iconochasm
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4d ago
Probably not actually the police fault there
Yeah, I would guess this is a blue city soft on crime prosecutor problem. A crazy/drug-addled person threatening to kill people should actually not be left free to be a violent random encounter for the citizenry.
Iconochasm
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4d ago
What options do the cops actually have otherwise?
Then we are left discharging this massive liability as soon as they sober up or whatever.
Kinda sounds like buck-passing all around. How can society deal with low-grade socially corrosive people? Without offending the bleeding heart types who do nothing to help but condemn anything that might?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
4d ago
that "this is an amazing pasta maker!",
Holy shit that was good. I did not really know who Heather Lochlear was (beyond a vaguly famous name from before my time) but she killed it there.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
4d ago
Consider starting at a local river that offers multi-hour canoe/kayak trips before worrying about places and trips that require camping.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
Holding your own well-being hostage to get your way is generally recognized as abuser behavior.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
One place in Jersey is decent
Where?
Iconochasm
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5d ago
The official position is that Good, after "stalking, harassing, and impeding" then committed a coordinated pre-trained "domestic act of terrorism" and "violently, willfully, and viciously" ran over an officer with who "followed his training and did exactly what he was taught to do." Nearly every load-bearing part of that entire position is false.
Actually, every part of that is meaningfully true.
You seem to literally exactly think this way, and that's why we're at serious risk of not having a country.
Iconochasm
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5d ago
Do they really think that ICE are on some spree killing of middle-aged white women now?
At the least, if you have a middle-aged white woman in your life that you care about, please talk to them, make sure they know real people in grass world love them, and research de-radicalization strategies.
Iconochasm
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5d ago
the kind of profanity that'd come to my lips would be more along the lines of "oh shit" than "what an obnoxious fuck".
That's a you thing. For myself, my initial reaction would probably be something like "You stupid asshole! (Why did you make me do that!?)"
But that's a reaction to your scenario, which skips the "attacker hits me with their car" step, in which case my language would likely be quite a bit worse.
A few minutes later, after I've left the scene and calmed down? Sure. Introspection, maybe grace. Two seconds after being hit by a car and shooting at someone in self defense? I'm more:
"Piece of shit pigfucking retard motherfucker asshole scumbag Karen bitch motherfucking shitstain waste of cum - holy shit, am I ok? Whew, I guess I'm not crippled. Where's the- Oh, fuck, did she die?"
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
Taking a human life is a grave thing, even when it becomes necessary, and respect for the dead is an important part of civilized humanity. If you've just killed somebody, and the threat is passed, then you should ideally be somber, even contemplative; you should take time to make the gravity of what you have done sink in deep, even - indeed, especially - if you are confident that your actions were just.
An hour or day later? Sure, though it's a grace she would have been very unlikely to offer back if she'd killed him instead.
Two seconds after she just put him in a life-or-death situation and hit him with her car, after a prolonged period of her acting like a fucking bitch Karen? When he very likely doesn't even know if she's dead or hurt?
You're being absurd.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
probably hostile towards people trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation.
I wouldn't grant that. The common attitude among the left towards sexual exploitation perpetrated by "oppressed peoples" is awkward doublethink. Regarding illegal immigration in particular, they actively encouraged illegal immigrants to show up with children, were quite indifferent about whose child it actually was, and then deliberately hampered oversight while losing track of tens of thousands of children.
I'm not sure that I've ever seen people on the left take human trafficking / sex trafficking seriously as a concern. They generally seem to treat any discussion of the topic as a bad faith attempt to restrict immigration or be racist at brown people.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
The fact that the living ex-husband has custody of the older two seems to be consistent, though it's hard to find a specific, news-like cite. I'm seeing numerous debunkings of the cigarette story, but from articles that are also saying she was just a mom dropping off her kid to daycare, so I'm tentatively rescinding that particular claim.
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All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
This is the product of about nine seconds of research to recall the details of a half-remembered case.
Sure, it's just that when I do that for things like excessive anti-gun laws I come up with examples like "black mom who had a totally legal gun in the back of her car by her home state's standards who was arrested and prosecuted for having a gun while getting gas because she didn't quite appreciate that her route passed through New Jersey". Or "veteran who was stopped in DC, and then arrested and prosecuted for having a spent shell casing in the trunk of his car".
In both cases, I hope them to be persuasive because of the vast chasm between the extremely minor infraction and then facing years of jail time. Imagine if the best example I could come up with was "The ATF went after this guy just because he owned a gun (and also, he was part of a gang of people that shot up a store and he was totally there but he says he didn't shoot)". I don't imagine that anyone on the other side would find that even slightly persuasive, and I would probably have to have an "Are we the baddies?" moment.
I see no reason to put more effort into it when past experience has shown that there is no amount of unambiguous evidence that you would accept at face value, let alone as demonstrative of a pattern.
The demonstrated pattern is that you have nothing remotely resembling "unambiguous" evidence. I've been asking this question for a year now, and every single example makes ICE seem actually extremely professional and reasonable.
This woman, mother of three
She actually is reported to have lost custody of the older two kids because she or the lesbian partner was putting cigarettes out on them. So, please amend this to specify "abusive, proven unfit mother".
Might be a fake claim slipped in there.
Internet outrage is inherently futile. You can doomscroll through endless provocation, but no short form video is ever going to give your ape brain the catharsis it wants. That's why these same women go on Scream Retreats and post videos of themselves having unhinged meltdowns. And that's why they spiral into more and more extreme rhetoric (and eventually, action) - because no amount of performative fury spewed into a screen ever actually scratches that itch. Combine that with a total lack of experience with real violence, and the end result is this nonsense.
One of the notable things about the MN shooting was how hard people went giving Good the benefit of the doubt. Even most people who think it was a justifiable shooting presume she couldn't have really had a murderous intent. I doubt that's a valid presumption. We don't have info about her media habits, but given who she was associated with and what she was doing, it seems very plausible that she was mainlining deranged homicidal ideation towards ICE agents, in the form of videos and posts from women and soyboys who think of the situation as something between a Marvel movie and a 7 year old daydreaming about fighting off bandits.
Why not run the ICE agent over? They're basically Nazi Death Eaters. None of the videos in which some septum-pierced crazy person loomed at the camera while calling for the deaths of federal agents ever raised the possibility that they were people, or might leave a real corpse. They're basically CGI robot aliens that don't even bleed.
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