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				Small-Scale Question Sunday for March 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


(well, except for the highway scene that takes forever).




Eh, this feels like a later conclusion.  None of my friends complained about it at the time.  It was actually quite popular.


After the third, I think a lot of good will and rose tinting was stripped off.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
What are they going to do?  We got Muslim nations on board against Iran at home.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for March 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I saw Reloaded three times in theatres.  The action sequences were just sublime for that era.


2003 also had The Last Samurai, Pirates of the Caribbean, 28 Days Later, Kill Bill, Master and Commander, and X2 (which I also went to see three times).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Why be charitable?  I've been told my entire life to take responsibility for things other white people did a thousand miles away from my ancestors a hundred and fifty years ago.  If she wants to claim to be an American (and represent us in Congress!) then she can publicly flagellate herself for the purported sins of America.  If not, then her whining means nothing and she can emigrate back to Palestine.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I'm confident it's a cheap rhetorical trick, because if the form of the argument were used against you, you would call it out as a low grade gotcha. "If you care about X, and Y is bad for X, then you should in all cases oppose Y and support any action whatsoever that harms Y" is obvious nonsense of the highest order. Just substitute "children" for X and imagine all of the policy positions that would result.




It's nonsense because you're going with absolutes.  The widespread inability to explicitly think in terms of trade-offs and hierarchies of values is a common leftwinger/Sith mistake.  What we instead see is progressive feminists almost entirely ignoring the plight of women under Islam (or British girls being mass raped in the UK) because they have no real ability to engage with the nuances of something having both good and bad qualities under a leftist intellectual framework, which pushes hard in a Manichean black/white, good/evil, oppressor/oppressed dynamic.  Muslims are [oppressed category], and so dwelling on their failings is haram.


Compare that to libertarian or conservatives, who are much more comfortable talking about tradeoffs.  You can't trick them into banning swimming pools because ~50 kids drown per year and THINK OF THE CHILDREN.




Uncharitable at best. Failure to model your opponents at worst. I think there's definitely an aspect of hypocrisy here but characterizing the situation as psychotic is not true. There are mechanisistic reasons we see this play out. It does have its own internal logic.




The underlying internal logic is "we just hate daddy, I mean the West/America/capitalism/white people".  The higher level pretend logic is "Muslims are an oppressed group and we have no ability to consider, much less address, crippling and dangerous flaws in oppressed groups".  The highest level is just stop thinking about it, omg




Ahh. So it is just arguments as soldiers then.




Nope.  Older waves of feminism won so hard that even most conservatives genuinely think Islam's treatment of women is fucked up.  Then they see progressive feminists going apeshit over white men being mildly less than perfect doormats, while refusing to even talk about Islam.  Progfems get more upset about white Christians because of the Handmaid's Tale (a made-up story literally inspired by Iran) than the 10k girls raped in the UK.


This is pretty fucked up.  And beyond that it is a massive, ruinous hypocrisy, and until it's addressed, it's entirely fair to dismiss surface claims and motivations from people doing it.  Anyone can escape that trap just by saying that Islam is wrong about women.


Which won't happen, for the same reason those people can't bring themselves to say itt's OK to be white.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Learn basic stuff like how to repair things around the house, cars, etc. Youtube is amazing for this and a little bit goes a long way. My wife likes to say "A husband is a Daddy you choose" (tongue in cheek, mostly) and whatever you can do to push that button is probably worthwhile. Gets back to masculine confidence.




The strongest relationship among my friend group is not a marriage, but  still 10 years in.  And I think a large part of that is the way she cleary considers him to be an atom-manipulating demigod.  "[Name] can fix it" is a core, fundamental part of her worldview.  Either he knows how to fix her car, faucet, beloved childhood electronics, etc, or he will after a few hours on Youtube.  The admiration, comfort, and security this generates in her is plain for anyone to see.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
My rebuttal was more to the "Trump is easily impressionable" thing.  Even if Kushner was willing to trade millions of American lives, he'd have to convince his father-in-law, and I think assuming that is a given is just an utter failure at any kind of theory of mind in favor of Jews/Orange Man Bad.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Kind of a side bar, but it's really interesting watching Democrats openly promise vengeance on all companies who did business with the Trump administration.  That seems like a risky tactic.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


No, it's more like an attempt by you to satisfy yourself emotionally.




Yes, it's very emotionally satisfying to be proven correct.




To score points fairly you would have to distinguish between feminists who support fundamentalist Islam and feminists who do not, and you show no signs of wanting to do that even though I am sure you understand the distinction.




Oh, I'm sorry, I must have missed that.  Can you please point to the prominent progressive feminists who have been more critical of fundamentalist Islam than, say, the made-up, Iran-inspired Christian fundamentalists in the Handmaid's Tale?


Can you point to any who are showing any degree of hope for the current hostilities improving conditions for women in Iran?  Or even a single progressive feminist who would rather see [women in Iran become more free plus Trump gets to count a win] than [thousands of women in Iran are massacred by their government, but Trump takes an L]?


Or if you don't like either of those framings, how would you care to distinguish those two groups?  I am willing to be convinced that the latter exists.  Make your case.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Trump is 80 years old and stubborn as hell.  I expect he thinks "nation-building" is fucking retarded.  Instead, he wants and expects clean, easy, impressive-looking wins that are over and done.  There is no plausible scenario where we "sacrifice millions of Americans", and no reason to think Trump would volunteer for that sort of disaster beyond TDS or some variation of Israeli/Jewish/Epstein Derangement Syndrome.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Calling it a "cheap rhetorical trick" is itself a cheap rhetorical trick to try to dodge a hypocrisy killshot.  The alliance between Western feminist progressives and Islamic fundamentalists was always completely psychotic under any ideological framework other than "they just hate the West and don't believe any of their own bullshit".  Rubbing their noses in it and taking the opportunity to diminish the extent that anyone takes progressive feminists seriously is points fairly scored.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Report from the womenfolk:


I am reliably informed that the women who are upset about the men's hockey team are FAKE FANS who only care about hockey because Heated Rivalry made them think hockey was GAY, unlike the REAL FANS who have been big into hockey for several years, ever since they discovered a large and expansive sub-genre of HUNKY HOCKEY HETEROSEXUAL ROMANCE NOVELS.


I am also delighted and confused to report that Jack Hughes is apparently my future son-in-law.  The delight should be obvious (free NHL tickets, at least some of which will be for the Flyers), but the confusion stems from my prior understanding that my son-to-be was instead Cooper Dejean.  When I confronted my daughter on this discrepancy and/or betrayal she hemmed and hawed in anguish for a minute, then decided that Cooper was the superior husbando because he has all of his teeth.


You can literally win eternal Olympic glory and teenage girls will still give you shit because you took a hit.  It's rough out there.  Stay frosty, fellas.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 16, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I've heard it said that a good relationship is one in which both people are trying to put in more than they take out.


This generalizes over the set of relationships known as a society.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for February 8, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Ah, well.  In my defense, it's been 20 years since AP C++.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Not sure what this is in reference to.




Walter Duranty, mostly.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for February 6, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I watched the first few minutes and my main thought was "Who the fuck OKed a set that blocks the audience that paid for a ticket to the Superbowl from seeing anything?"


My second thought was "Yeah, this is lame garbage for ratchet latina chicks" (fun fact: unlike most Americans I knew who he was years ago because the most ratchet employee I've ever had talked about him while doing a terrible job lying about why she was calling out because she went clubbing on a Wednesday).


In more important news, I seasoned with my heart and the wings came out extra spicy.  When I pick my son up from his SB party, I'm going to have to try some reverse psychology to get him to eat any.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Your point of comparison is literally the biggest name in news in America, which never actually deserved it (Walter Duranty, etc).


Your argument here is essentially "You don't deserve to be taken seriously because you're not at the cool kids table, and you're not at the cool kids table because you don't deserve to be taken seriously.  The rest of us do deserve to be here because we just don't admit our biases, lies, and open support for genocidal tyrants."


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for February 8, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
It's all fun and games until the new guy accidentally pushes IsVacuum == TRUE; to prod on a Friday.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


It doesn't need to be impartial enough to win over deranged leftists, just enough of the center that people like myself or Scott or Bryan Caplan or Richard Hanania or Nate Silver could look at it and see a relatively competitive alternative.




The entire point of my post was that we literally had exactly that and it was meme'd into a mass perception as "blatant right-wing propaganda".  It's honestly still not that bad, compared to, say ABC News.  I see articles on their website that seem low-key hostile to Trump and relatively few that look like water carrying.


Silver does seem to have positive things to say about Fox, but then he asks LLMs to rate them by consensus and gets VERY CONSERVATIVE, compared to ABC as "somewhat liberal".  As someone who uses those two for "hard" news sources, I think that's exactly reversed.  But then, I actually consume their content.  Silver is trusting a self-serving "consensus".


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


enough impartiality not to be written off as blatant right wing propaganda.




This doesn't exist.  During the height of the Daily Show's popularity, Fox News' news programming was purportedly actually quite good.  And that counted for absolutely nothing with the wider media environment because Glenn Beck had an opinion show, and thus FAUX NEWS.


There is no degree of impartiality that will cause a zealous, mind-killed left-partisan to not write a neutral media source off as "blatant right wing propaganda", because calling everything to the right of AOC "blatant right wing propaganda" is an important tool for maintaining the power of their blatant left wing propaganda.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I was actually unaware of the outbreak in Canada. Seems like I was wrong and @The_Nybbler was right, it's the mennonite communities in Canada/Texas and apparently 'Slavic' (Ukrainian? Russian? Apparently services are held in both) immigrants in South Carolina. Not really your garden variety Trump supporters. Mea culpa.




FWIW, I'm not giving a lot of credit to the right-wingers on this one either.  "Mennonites who came from Mexico in the 70's" is maybe the finest split possible between technically correct, but also really not what I took away from what those guys meant by "immigrants".  Just so with "Russo-Ukranian Evangelicals".


When I was looking for links for that last post, I found this ranking of nations by MMR vaccination rate, and it does have some hotly topical immigrant source nations near the bottom, like Somalia, Haiti, and Venezuela.  But that doesn't seem to have actually translated into outbreaks.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


How else can you deport a 5 year old kid.




Why would you want to take a 5 year old kid away from his family?  What kind of monster wouldn't deport him?  What else would you do?  Stick him in a residential school and brainwash him with whiteness and then kill him and bury his body under the playground?


Actual villain behavior, right?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


It's...not? I mean, I guess I don't have healthcare records for every measles patient, but are you genuinely going to make the argument that a nearly 100x increase in measles cases, centered around political strongholds for the vaccine-skeptical party and away from population centers, is due to some other factor? What would that be?




You're an actual expert on this stuff.  I am very much not.  But the common rebuttal I've seen from right-wingers is that Canada is seeing a proportionally worse increase with no RFK.  The "other" factor they point to that both nations have in common over the relevant time frame is mass immigration from nations with much lower overall vaccination rates.


At a quick glance, that doesn't look like it holds much explanatory power for Spartansburg, but Gains County does seem have a high immigrant rate..  Mojave looks like it might be lower levels of immigrants than the surrounding area.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for February 6, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Did you guys know Patton wrote poetry?


I read this making the same face and noises that my son does when watching highlight reels of high school sports.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Yes, but the claim is just that "Democrats do/don't like this".




Sure.  But "Democrats don't like this" is a very different claim than "the optics of this are bad".