Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
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Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1d ago
Maybe they won't endorse it because, you know, they don't believe it?
What does that have to do with anything? Do you use that standard to disregard all criticisms of conservatives? "Well, they say that aren't Xist, so you should stop calling them that." In either case, we can look beyond people's own self-conceptions. Though IME, if you lay out enough rope in the right circumstances it really isn't hard to trip leftists into essentially stating "Whites are the master race and that's a bad thing". They just absolutely will not close the loop, and it's fascinating to watch play out.
The modal progressive believes that people deserve the same standard of living.
Right, which is why they had the national guard deport the busload of immigrants who made it to Martha's Vinyard.
But I'm not even talking about vast, general trends. I'm talking about specific individuals. I can tell my progressive friends about an absolute fucking idiot I encountered, and the part where I literally saw her committing welfare fraud, and if I phrase it to imply she's a low-class white, they laugh and sneer. If I reveal she's Hispanic, they suddenly find vast reserves of sympathy and patience.
It's the exact phenomenon Scott wrote about where all his oh-so empathetic friends were very humanistic and somber when bin Laden died and then turned around to chant "DING DONG THE BITCH IS DEAD" when Thatcher passed, but very clearly race/culture coded. The same people who would express grave concerns about the brutal consequences of America's prison system on the brown illigrant who raped and murdered a teenaged white girl would laugh about TheNybbler going to pound-me-in-the-ass prison if he failed to mention an elementary school shrink visit on a gun permit.
It certainly looks like they think he's the master race, and ought to have known better and deserves what he gets, while imprisoning the poor immigrant is like beating an animal that doesn't understand it did something wrong.
Solzhenitsyn wrote on this. Remember that kerfluffle? Remember Ma'khia Bryant?
I once had a Haitian kid who worked for me. He apparently straight up told the (female) hiring manager "I have a learning disability. I just need someone to give me a chance.", and so he was hired and assigned to me. He wasn't a bad guy, but his general level of competence and basic problem-solving was painful. And the amazing thing was watching some of my most diffcult, entitled, asshole regular customers suddenly turn into kindergarten teachers when he was helping them, just so proud of themselves for being patient and understanding with the slow guy with an accent. I have a white kid now who isn't nearly as bad, and the same customers treat him like something to scrape off their shoes if I can't interceed.
When reality falls short, he blames the people with the most money and power.
It's not reality falling short, it's people. Individual humans. It wasn't reality that repeatedly raped a 10 year old, it was Tue Lue Vang, who was pardoned by Tim Walz and Keith Ellison to protect him from consequences. Meanwhile Brock Turner is a vile piece of subhuman shit who deserves to spend his life being raped in prison.
If someone isn't willing to hold an immigrant to the same standards as a native, then they ought to have to justify that stance. And if their own ideology says that such a disparate impact is obvious evidence of giga-racism, then they should have to weasel their way out of that too.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
1d ago
There’s probably a leftist out there who would endorse the racist paternalism you describe, but that person is not an “average person.” The concept is so far outside the Overton window that it horseshoes around to the general fringe category.
Openly endorse it? Never. That's a second order consequence that would make them look bad, so it's basically an antimeme.
Live every day as though that were a fair and accurate description of their true beliefs? Yes, I observe it personally all the time, it's a constain refrain in their published works ("X bad behavior is just a reflection of the oppression they suffer!" is an entire genre of progressive articles), and it's borne out in studies and research (e.g. progressives dumbing down their speech and downplaying their competence when speaking with black/brown people).
Perhaps this is because “racist” is the wrong label for what you’re describing.
What's a better one?
If those words are shocking and incoherent, if you notice you are confused, maybe they aren’t the right words.
The confusion was wondering why progressive people I know seem incapable of assigning blame for bad behavior to anyone but straight white men. The "words in their mouths" may be less than charitable, but they're an explanation that resolves the confusion.
Do you have a better one?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
2d ago
The average person with a "No human is illegal" sign on their lawn would never, ever, ever act like that. If you described this behavior as "American passport bro goes abroad and acts like an asshole", they would utterly revile him. The thought of going to a foreign country and being indignant that people there don't speak English or mispronouce your name, or misunderstand your customs would disgust and horrify them.
But they don't see immigrants to the West as people, as agents, as adults, as fully human. They see it as something like a shelter dog rescue that makes messes on the floor (even if they'd quietly have such a dog returned and euthanized).
It's hard to escape the conclusion that they're just the most insanely racist people on Earth. Even professional-grade racists like Asians and Slavs don't usually hate themselves too.
As for the immigrants who engage in the behavior you described, I think that behavior is retarded and low-functioning and utterly predictable. Memes want to propogate themselves, and that includes cultures and customs, no matter how poorly they perform at their ostensible function, and that's before we get into the human capital aspect, much less the crab-bucket envy.
Immigration, should we permit it at all, should require an abandonment of old loyalties (including citizenship) and a ban on remitances, and that should probably be Step 1 of the process.
Want to be an American? Burn the bridge behind you. Leave no retreat.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
4d ago
As I pointed out to @Iconochasm, their utility is ridiculously high even with the dopamine-pumps removed.
I don't disagree, but I do think it's worth acknowledging that the thing people are worried about is the 24/7 access to high grade dopamine pumps.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
Yeah, egg prices got insane, but that was another industry specific thing. Some birds tested positive for an avian illness and one of the last acts of the Biden admin was an order to purge something like 100 million chickens, which was either a reasonable safety precaution or a malevolent overreaction, I have no grounding to discern between the two.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
Beef issues seem to be industry specific. Similar issue with coffee during the Biden years. It wasn't inflation that jacked the price so high, it was a few years of extreme weather events that disrupted harvests (though apparently one of the issues in 2023 was that so many people were trekking to the US that there weren't enough laborers to handle the harvesting.
For beef, herd levels are at a low point for apparently weather-related reasons. The gap was being closed with imports, but there have been issues with that, including the expansion of screwworm and standards/safety issues. The topic is a Big Fucking Deal among certain parts of the MAHA faction that I only really catch in passing.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
Talking about personal consumption, not fivrr farming the requests to fellow posters. I mean that the real utility of this type of generative flash fiction is the hyper-specificity. But if you can already think of the hyperspecific thing you want, and the end result is so short and constrained, I'm not sure you get much value from reading the generated story compared to just spending 5 minutes daydreaming.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
Obama launched his political career in Ayers' living room. Ayers was just recently a guest at the opening of his presidential library. Seems like a pretty solid friendship to endure three or so decades.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
I wonder how much of this we can blame on college. 20 years ago, I could get a full meal plus a drink at the student center for under $5. A cheesesteak from a food truck was $3. Subsidized, obviously, but it's not like they tell you that.
Then you graduate and go back to the real world and watch that cheesesteak climb to $15 over a few decades and it feels like the world must have gone crazy.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
5d ago
Sorry, I don't mean they're using the ChatGPT app solely as a form of speech-to-text, I mean that the usual use case is something like rambling at their phone for 30s to find out the business hours of a local store. AFAIKS, the median "AI user" is just treating it like a Siri app that someone said was better. Admittedly, they also use it for image generation, hence the QR code issue I mentioned elsewhere.
All of them stop when the free version rate limits them.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
6d ago
A computer, especially a handheld one, is a convenient portal to the sum of human knowledge. Some of my friends live in there. Like, do something useful with it.
"Here's the weights. Do something useful! Better yourself! Why are you complaining that they're right next to this table full of drugs, porn and video games? Just git gud and ignore the temptation, scrub."
Willpower likely follows a similar distribution to IQ (albeit, much more trainable). Most people here are also high willpower people, who don't grok that there's a difference. Personally, I plan around my probably-sub-par-for-the-motte Will stat by paying for an app that lockdowns, limits and blocks my biggest time wasters on my phone.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
6d ago
Smartphones themselves were about 6 years to reach 50% of US adults.
HALF of Americans are doing this weekly?
Most normies I see using those apps are doing speech to text on their phone to get approximately the functionality I expected from a basic google search on a desktop 5-10 years ago, back when google would just understand what I was probably looking for and put that info right onto the search results screen.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
6d ago
Ivan is apparently the parallel to John, and is very close to Ian. You could just swap to the closest parallel. Might not even need to bother changing it legally. I know a Bangladeshi guy who just goes by [English name that sounds very close to his Bangladeshi name]. He's in the same boat as you, fully assimilated second-generation.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
6d ago
From where I stand, it seems like Cambridge wanted a neurodivergent, minority scholar, and they likely got someone who fit the bill on two of three counts.
Excellently turned phrase.
Fourthly, I am grateful that my own discipline (physics) is generally not on the forefront of that level of academic fraud. Sure, we have plenty of shoddy research (and the rare outright fraud), but at the end of the day we are at least not the obvious path towards earning tenure. Presumably, the physics professors at Cambridge are physicists first and on the spectrum second, not the other way round.
Have you tried publishing a paper about how physics makes you feel? Auto-ethno-physics?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
6d ago
How hard is it to put “please ask any relevant follow-up questions” in your prompt? This isn’t wizardry. We were doing this is 2023. Yes, you have to put in a modicum of effort.
The selling point in the commercials is that you don't. You can just talk to it like a person. Most normies don't quite get that it's sort of like a brutally autistic person you can just talk to, but you have to carefully phrase everything and anticipate mistakes that would normally come up and be dealt with over an actual conversation. In actual practice, it's less effective at anticipating your needs and problems than the 16 year old girl with a tablet standing outside a Chik'Fil'A.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
6d ago
Rephrase it as "defend the principles of civil society and a morally sanctioned opportunity to be hostile to an asshole". Karens work at Aldi, too.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
But these people, and I admit I think they sound a lot more sensible than the tech people online, actually use the technology and go, "meh". They see it as a mildly amusing toy. Maybe it has some uses, in some niche fields, but for the most part it's just not very interesting. If they didn't get access to it, they would not particularly care.
Normies use the ChatGPT app, and from what I see, the results are often worthless garbage. I mean a significant fraction of the time it's literally on the level of "Please design me a rectangle." "Ok, here's that triangle you asked for."
A lot of that is surely user error, but the entire pitch is that it can field natural language requests. There's a minor IRL issue of local flyers with QR codes that don't work because the person just asked for "A flyer with a QR code" and the free version on mobile at least doesn't ask follow-up questions like "Is the QR code supposed to actually do anything?"
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
It's like you live in the third world. Tonight, I had a 16" pepperoni from a local place that was featured by Guy Fieri for $23. 33% bigger, approximately a hundred times tastier, and $3 less.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
Well for starters, most fanfiction (or fiction of any kind) consists of more than 4k words stapled together from eight loosely connected vignettes.
I guess there's value in the specificity, but I feel like baseline Mottizan imagination could crank out one of these but better while taking a crap.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
Those immigrants could be helping to build enough housing for everyone; the construction industry is heavily Hispanic. They are just not allowed to, because nobody is allowed to solve the problem.
Have you seen what buildings look like in Latin America?
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
For the most part you don't have to actually interact. The videos of utterly brazen thieves are the tip of the iceberg. The other 90% will bail to try later or somewhere else if a staffer is just hanging around suspiciously close. "Hey, can I help you with anything?" is the best practical defense.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
Yes, the part you underlined is precisely what I was referring to. "There's a plausible enough alternative explanation that we're not going to get a conviction through a DC jury" is actually a different statement from "There was no evidence of the crime at all because we made it all up."
You are reading the first and imagining the second. Or, less charitably, lying.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
Yes, all shoplifting is theft from the community. But that's a second order consequence, so it's functionally inscrutable High Arcana to the people who need to hear it.
Iconochasm
All post-temple whore technology is gay.
7d ago
Plenty of low level employees do care, in the sense of "Fuck you, I have to do this shit to get my stuff. Why should your defectbot ass get it for free?"
The employees who don't have that attitude are usually the ones getting let go within a few months.
There is significant amount of routing around. Forget book runs, think ebooks and audiobooks and webnovels that have plenty to cater to men, but it's very much a "build your own publishing industry" situation.
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