Jiro
1yr ago
That said, DeepSeek seem to not be very sold on socialism as a universal principle
Neither is China.
"Socialism" would be a code word for "whatever the Chinese government wants", not for actual socialism. The results wouldn't be very socialist, but probably wouldn't tell you about the Tienanmen Square massacre either.
Jiro
1yr ago
If you're trying to learn about a suspected crackpot, a piece of paper saying "yes" will get the point across even faster than that. But the piece of paper and Rationalwiki will both be bad at eliminating false positives.
Jiro
1yr ago
Okay, let's split some hairs - scientific journal is an institution, probably has an annual budget of literally tens of thousands of dollars that it can pay ramen-eating graduate students to review papers with, whereas libsoftiktok is an influencer with 3 million subscribers
Dollars are sort of important things.
Jiro
1yr ago
You can't even (as people in this thread claim) act like a helpless normie, because helpless normies don't give a shit about due diligence.
There are degrees of due diligence and degrees of how much effort you'd expect hoaxers to put into hoaxes, so this doesn't follow. It's not all or nothing.
Jiro
1yr ago
It's the difference between a woman wearing dresses as clothes and a crossdresser wearing dresses because he gets sexually excited at it. Furries aren't a type of transhumanists.
Jiro
1yr ago
"...but there are good reasons why a regular person would want to use Ashley Madison,"
Ashley Madison's advertising was clearly aimed towards people for whom using it would be unethical, and the vast majority of users were such people. Ethical edge cases like some openly poly person who wanted to use it are a rounding error.
It's like claiming that it's okay for someone to be in the hitman business because if you're trapped in a building with a killer on the loose, you can call up a hitman and get him to kill the killer. Maybe, but that's a very noncentral hitman job.
Whenever there was a new hack, a new release, a new doxx, it seemed like no one was asking, "Is this type of hacking/releasing/doxxing okay or bad in general?"
By this reasoning, we should see everyone saying "well, this time TracingWoodgrains collected information about our enemies, so that's fine". This was not the reaction.
Jiro
1yr ago
No, it is not how every social group works. And you know this because your hoax involved fake school teachings, and school is a kind of social group where the teachers do, in fact, have leverage beyond just getting mad at their charges.
Jiro
1yr ago
The reasoning isn't too far from requiring warhawks to register for the draft.
Okay, a rob-bank-hawk is someone who thinks we should arrest and jail bank robbers. Do you think that rob-bank-hawks should be required to become security guards (or maybe become bank robbers)?
We've already established that LoTT didn't recognize the in-jokes, so I'd answer "obviously not familiar enough".
Jiro
1yr ago
Give me a break.
A normie would think "if that's a hoax, that would require a huge, huge, amount of effort. Nobody would go through that much effort to pull a hoax on a random person". That's why she didn't figure out that it was fake.
You can fool anyone by being a weird person from the Internet, if you spend enough time tricking someone who isn't familiar with weird people on the Internet.
Jiro
1yr ago
On one hand, yeah, that's ironic. On the other hand, there isn't a culture war issue around air travel where the people who think air travel is dangerous really do think that the crash proves them right.
Jiro
1yr ago
The subset of the homeless who are causing the problems are also the subset who, if given a home, will trash it. This includes encampments, so it won't work.
Jiro
1yr ago
In that story it sounds like working from home was used to cover up a transition that was already happening.
Jiro
1yr ago
The term "white males" is too commonly in use for me to think that demands about "females" are sincere.
Jiro
1yr ago
Apparently the Finns are much more willing to lock up the homeless.
Jiro
1yr ago
None struck me as fetishists or AGP.
If they were, you wouldn't know. That's another problem with the "highly intelligent people are doing this" idea. Highly intelligent people are better able to hide anything questionable.
Jiro
1yr ago
and they've probably thought it through for themselves quite thoroughly.
That doesn't follow. Highly intelligent people are also able to see gatekeepers as obstacles and can, using their intelligence, lie and manipulate to get around whatever criterion the gatekeeper is using to avoid later regret.
Jiro
1yr ago
I'm left wondering just why Peterson is such a rabid philosemite.
Because your standards for being a philosemite are absurdly low such that everyone seems to be defending the Jews too much.
Jiro
1yr ago
We've been mooting those same ideas since the 80s! When I saw The Capitol Steps when I was 12, they did parody duets between Yassir Arafat and the Israeli PM where the punchline was something like "well your great great grandfather once planned an attack, it's been hundreds of years who could ever keep track, no one can remember anymore!" How's anyone supposed to keep all this straight, let alone a fading old man?
"All sides are equal" is unfair to the better side. And since we have white supremacists here, let me make clear that Israel is the better side. From the Israeli side, the punchline is "the Gazans made an attack yesterday".
If the boss was pocketing some of the employee's paycheck under threat of firing, there would be no question that it's a legal problem. Using his position to take sex instead of cash is just a slight variation. It is not actually legal to rob your employees.
Jiro
1yr ago
Telemarketers being eaten alive is "I fantasize about my outgroup getting hurt".
Jiro
1yr ago
And it was not the first or last time I noticed that Gaiman makes these sorts of choices in his stories, so him turning out to be a little skeevy doesn't surprise me.
Every writer who is trying to be edgy, particularly ones who are trying to be both literary and edgy, is going to put something like that in their work.
(Especially for a writer who learned his trade writing comics, where the medium has traditionally been for kids, so writing like that is subversive and artistic and an especially good signal of literary merit.)
Finally, there is "if I refuse I might have to apply to one of 100s other employers" my boss made me do it, and I really do believe an adult woman should and does have the agency to refuse that last kind of ultimatum.
Even from a libertarian point of view, that should be unacceptable under real world conditions. The "boss" probably isn't the CEO and if he fires someone for not having sex with him, that's a principal/agent problem; the boss's boss doesn't want him to fire people for this reason.
You'd need a situation where either 1) the boss runs the whole company and doesn't answer to anyone or 2) the people who the boss does answer to approve of the boss firing people for refusing to have sex with him. Furthermore, to avoid bait and switch (which is a form of fraud), having sex would have to be part of the job description. And the boss would not be permitted to claim that he fired the person for some reason other than refusal to have sex (though he could stay silent if he wished). This will never happen.
If that's what the shoplifting means in the metaphor, then we could just catch the criminal shoplifting because they do it all the time, and setting up a sting operation instead of observing actual shoplifting brings no benefit at all.
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